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Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:32 am
by FW190
genosen wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:55 pm
FW190 wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:29 am
genosen wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:34 pm Hello all!

Does anybody have Dobrzynski's Op. 23 by any chance?

"4 Mazures, 3 Valses et 2 Galoppes" (pub. 1836, Hofmeister)"

Cant be found on IMSLP and I have tried searching various polish websites for manuscripts but I am having trouble!
Here you go (SBB-Scan).
BR

Dobrzynski,I.-.op.23.-.Charmes-de-Varsovie-Bk.2-(pno-Hofmeister-Edition-1836-reprint).pdf
I apologize, I am trying to collect all of his Mazurkas and I noticed his Op. 16 is also missing from my collections of scores, would you happen to have this as well?
Yepph ...
Dobrzynski,I.-.op.16.-.Trois-Mazurkas-(pno-Hofmeister-Edition).pdf

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:58 pm
by SV078954
Has anyone scores of Henry Kowalski?

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:59 pm
by bingo
SV078954 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:58 pm Has anyone scores of Henry Kowalski?
There are quite a few posted on this forum already (use the Search ^^^ with some spelling variants if needed). It's better to be specific about your requests i.e. which pieces you're looking for. Henri Kowalski is French (with Polish father).

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:53 am
by genosen
I have a somewhat interesting composer here for anybody who's a fan of Chopin. For anybody familiar with Chopin's Nocturnes you will notice his style changes dramatically with the Op. 55 No. 2 onwards, the Ostinato becomes a lot more complex and less repetative, the Nocturnes take on an almost caotic fantasie form with lots of chromatic modulation. I think most would attribute this to Chopin's style devloping near the end of his life, but I recently discovered a Nocturne that sounds a lot like Chopin's late nocturnes:

Im inclined to believe Zaliski may have left an impression on Chopin, not the other way around, mainly because the style found here extends beyond just the nocturnes and is fairly uncharacteristic of Chopin when you look at his other works.


But there seems to be very little if any info on this composer. Curious is anybody else has any other scores.

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:48 am
by bingo
genosen wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:53 am Im inclined to believe Zaliski may have left an impression on Chopin, not the other way around, mainly because the style found here extends beyond just the nocturnes and is fairly uncharacteristic of Chopin when you look at his other works.
Karol Bernard Zaluski (1834-1919) is 24 years younger than Chopin (1810-1849) and seems unlikely to have influenced him.

Sheet music sources:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Za%C5%82uski,_Karol
https://polona.pl/sets?searchCategory=o ... %20zaluski

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:36 am
by genosen
bingo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:48 am
genosen wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:53 am Im inclined to believe Zaliski may have left an impression on Chopin, not the other way around, mainly because the style found here extends beyond just the nocturnes and is fairly uncharacteristic of Chopin when you look at his other works.
Karol Bernard Zaluski (1834-1919) is 24 years younger than Chopin (1810-1849) and seems unlikely to have influenced him.

Sheet music sources:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Za%C5%82uski,_Karol
https://polona.pl/sets?searchCategory=o ... %20zaluski
Yeah I noticed that too before posting, so he would have been a teenager around when Chopin died. They did have some relationship but there is not much detail on him. I do find it interesting though that he sounds a lot like Chopin's later works, which is somewhat atypical when you look at Chopin;s other pupils.

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:29 am
by soh choon wee
bingo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:48 am
genosen wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:53 am Im inclined to believe Zaliski may have left an impression on Chopin, not the other way around, mainly because the style found here extends beyond just the nocturnes and is fairly uncharacteristic of Chopin when you look at his other works.
Karol Bernard Zaluski (1834-1919) is 24 years younger than Chopin (1810-1849) and seems unlikely to have influenced him.

Sheet music sources:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Za%C5%82uski,_Karol
https://polona.pl/sets?searchCategory=o ... %20zaluski
It could well also be there is another influenzer that simultaneously influenced Chopin and Karol Bernard Zal.

Re: Polish Composers

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 am
by bingo
soh choon wee wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:29 am
It could well also be there is another influenzer that simultaneously influenced Chopin and Karol Bernard Zal.
Some more research needs to be done into the great Influenzer outbreak of the early 1800s, it's an interesting Field of study.