surely there should be some ancient or antique edition of 1824??
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Re: Polish Composers
Yes, it is a more modern publication and hence covered by copyright. Not sure if it was ever printed back in 1824 !soh choon wee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:02 amsurely there should be some ancient or antique edition of 1824??
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According to one of the recordings, it "was not performed during his lifetime. The composer never proof-read the score or edited the text. In 1986, the manuscript, held in the Warsaw Music Society Library, was reconstructed twice: by Kazimierz Rozbicki and by Krzysztof Baculewski. The Concerto has been performed according to both those versions around a dozen times in all."soh choon wee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:02 amsurely there should be some ancient or antique edition of 1824??
So we're basically looking at a 38 year old first edition.
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err....... Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński - Piano Concerto in A-flat major, Op.2 (1824)bingo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:53 amAccording to one of the recordings, it "was not performed during his lifetime. The composer never proof-read the score or edited the text. In 1986, the manuscript, held in the Warsaw Music Society Library, was reconstructed twice: by Kazimierz Rozbicki and by Krzysztof Baculewski. The Concerto has been performed according to both those versions around a dozen times in all."soh choon wee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:02 amsurely there should be some ancient or antique edition of 1824??
So we're basically looking at a 38 year old first edition.
But it has an opus number Op.2, meaning it must have been published at least once during his life-time....
Not that i nit-pick..... i find this very interesting.......Of course the first publication could have been lost, and only the manuscript kept.
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Neither Opus numbers nor copyright have to be "claimed" or established by publishing. Copyright protection is granted automatically from the time an original work is created.soh choon wee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:59 pm err....... Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński - Piano Concerto in A-flat major, Op.2 (1824)
But it has an opus number Op.2, meaning it must have been published at least once during his life-time....
Not that i nit-pick..... i find this very interesting.......Of course the first publication could have been lost, and only the manuscript kept.
There are (probably numerous) composers with works posted on Pianophilia whose works exist in part or in full only in manuscript form - and many have "Opus" numbers. (In some cases I may have been the first person to create engraved versions of those works.) We also have a few who have re-used their Opus numbers according to their own system (or lack thereof).
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Thank you so very much, I just sent you an email today. Let me know if you were able to get it.mballan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:49 amHello OG1992
I have a copy of the full score (not aware of a 2 piano arrangement) - I can not share on Pianophilia owing to various reasons, but send me an email to discuss.
malcolm.ballan@gmail.com
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Hello all!
Does anybody have Dobrzynski's Op. 23 by any chance?
"4 Mazures, 3 Valses et 2 Galoppes" (pub. 1836, Hofmeister)"
Cant be found on IMSLP and I have tried searching various polish websites for manuscripts but I am having trouble!
Does anybody have Dobrzynski's Op. 23 by any chance?
"4 Mazures, 3 Valses et 2 Galoppes" (pub. 1836, Hofmeister)"
Cant be found on IMSLP and I have tried searching various polish websites for manuscripts but I am having trouble!
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Here you go (SBB-Scan).
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I apologize, I am trying to collect all of his Mazurkas and I noticed his Op. 16 is also missing from my collections of scores, would you happen to have this as well?