The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven

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Bingo, thanks for dropping those hints about technique. I hadn't played with NAPS2 for a while, and didn't realize its potential.

It's a great tool for certain bulk operations, plus being able to split a PDF into page images or assemble a PDF from images with the text OCR'd for search.

While you can use the crop tool to clean up edges, you get a lot of mismatched page sizes. I find it easier to save out all the pages as images, drop them into Paint.NET and then clean up each page as necessary. For edges, select all the material in the centre, invert the selection (so it is only the page borders), delete that and then flood fill with white.

That generally suffices with good scans like the above, but if you have lower resolution or otherwise "dirty" scans it takes a bit more work.

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Beethoven - Piano Sonatas Nr. 12 - 16 - D'Albert.pdf

Beethoven's Sonatas edited by D'Albert. (Volume II part 1- Sonatas 12-16)

[Paul]

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Best regards

Paul

Beethoven Klaviersonaten Nr.7-11 (ed. d'Albert).pdf

Beethoven Klaviersonaten Nr.12-16 (ed. d'Albert).pdf

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Volume II Part 2 - Sonatas Nr. 17-21

Beethoven - Piano Sonatas Nr. 17 - 21 - D'Albert.pdf

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... and converted to bw ...

Best regards

Paul

Beethoven Klaviersonaten Nr.7-11 (ed. d'Albert).pdf

Beethoven Klaviersonaten Nr.12-16 (ed. d'Albert).pdf

Thank you so much for your support.

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Beethoven - Piano Sonatas Nr. 12 - 16 - D'Albert.pdfBeethoven's Sonatas edited by D'Albert. (Volume II part 1- Sonatas 12-16)

Monochrome, cropped and edges cleaned

BEETHOVEN Klaviersonaten 12-16 (ed. d'Albert)(bw).pdf

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Volume II Part 2 - Sonatas Nr. 17-21

Beethoven - Piano Sonatas Nr. 17 - 21 - D'Albert.pdf

Monochrome, no extra cleaning appeared necessary

BEETHOVEN Klaviersonaten 17-21 (ed. D'Albert)(bw).pdf

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Volume III Part 1 - Sonatas Nr. 22-28

Beethoven - Piano Sonatas Nr. 22- 28 - D'Albert.pdf

[ScoreUpdater]

Maybe you should look better for pedal marks in volume I. In the edition I have (1931), you find three pedal marks already under the first line of the first sonata (op.2 n°1). And they are everywhere in the rest of the work. You can also read paragraph 5 of the preface about the pedals.

Yes, I know that. But in this link from archive.org (Sonatas volume I) you will see on page 13, (sonata op.2 nº 1) that these pedal marks doesn't exit. That's why I ask if there are two different editions from Tovey and Craxton. One with pedal and other without.

https://archive.org/details/bethovencomplete0000unse



And now with pedal markings. Again,Craxton and Tovey edition. From Alicia de Larrocha Archive.



Definitely, I don't understand anything.

Hello,

Just to give you a bit of information regarding the publication history of these sonatas.

The ABRSM edition of the 32 sonatas were first published in 1931 with fingerings/pedallings/phrasings by Harold Craxton (1885-1971) and "annotations" (probably only preface?) by Donald Francis Tovey (1875-1940).

Nowadays, ABRSM sells this Tovey/Craxton edition. Does anyone know if it includes pedal markings?

This edition is a 1986 re-issue of the 1931 edition with the recognisable "signatures" and red paperback covers that are familiar for the ABRSM editions of Beethoven's works. In this reprint, Craxton's detailed pedalling indications [were] deleted. It was felt that they tended to distract from the musical text and from Beethoven's own markings. [paraphrased from the preface to the 1986 reissue]

I'm no help with the early/late sonatas, but I have vol 2 in the 1931 edition (sonatas 12-22)
Beethoven - piano sonatas vol 2 (Craxton Tovey).pdf

This is the original 1931 edition, complete with pedalling indications.

Can someone give a comparison of both Henle urtext Beethoven 32 sonatas?
Specifically, how does the new M. Perrahia edition come in comparison?

Taking away the fingering suggestion, what about the text itself? Has there been great changes?

Was thinking hard whether to purchase the 3 volumes New Beethoven on Henle..... but really expensive.

But i cannot understand why it is suddenly having a revival...... for quite many years, Henle and Wien seems most popular.

I collect Beethoven Sonatas Editions. Until now, I have 15 of them. Of course, Henle, Wien , Barry Cooper, Stewart Gordon are more "recomedable". Even so, Angela Hewitt and other pianists still use Tovey/Craxton edition.

In my opinion, the Henle (Norbert Gertsch/Murray Perahia, 2006-2021) editions are good, as is the ABRSM edition which includes the 3 early sonatas, WoO 47 (Barry Cooper, 2007). They both have great critical scholarship and interesting fingering suggestions. The older Henle (Bertha Antonia Wallner, 1952 etc.) edition is not as good: it makes some questionable editorial decisions, and has no critical commentary. For high-quality scholarship, my recommended edition is the Bärenreiter edition (Jonathan Del Mar, 2018), but it has no fingering suggestions.

Hopefully, this sheds some more light on the history of these editions, and which ones I think are the best.

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Hello,

Just to give you a bit of information regarding the publication history of these sonatas.

The ABRSM edition of the 32 sonatas were first published in 1931 with fingerings/pedallings/phrasings by Harold Craxton (1885-1971) and "annotations" (probably only preface?) by Donald Francis Tovey (1875-1940).

........

This edition is a 1986 re-issue of the 1931 edition with the recognisable "signatures" and red paperback covers that are familiar for the ABRSM editions of Beethoven's works. In this reprint, Craxton's detailed pedalling indications [were] deleted. It was felt that they tended to distract from the musical text and from Beethoven's own markings. [paraphrased from the preface to the 1986 reissue]

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This is the original 1931 edition, complete with pedalling indications.

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In my opinion, the Henle (Norbert Gertsch/Murray Perahia, 2006-2021) editions are good, as is the ABRSM edition which includes the 3 early sonatas, WoO 47 (Barry Cooper, 2007). They both have great critical scholarship and interesting fingering suggestions. The older Henle (Bertha Antonia Wallner, 1952 etc.) edition is not as good: it makes some questionable editorial decisions, and has no critical commentary. For high-quality scholarship, my recommended edition is the Bärenreiter edition (Jonathan Del Mar, 2018), but it has no fingering suggestions.

Hopefully, this sheds some more light on the history of these editions, and which ones I think are the best.

Many thanks for the information. It is enlightening. So, if I want to have Craxton/Tovey's editions with pedalling indications I have to the get 1931 edition. Any help?