Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Rachmaninoff Corelli Var. op.42 alfor fingered
Deleted. Final (hopefully...) version - improved and definitely suited for an actual performance of the work -
will be posted in due course (hope I will have finished entering the new fingerings and scanning the score before June 2017).
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Deleted. Final (hopefully...) version - improved and definitely suited for an actual performance of the work -
will be posted in due course (hope I will have finished entering the new fingerings and scanning the score before June 2017).
alfor (aka "The FINGER")
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Thank you, Alfred, for this well considered fingering of the Corelli. Wish I'd had this during my performing days! I can see where a lot of work went into this.
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
My fingering of Var. IX bars 15 & 16 (r.h.) is too „special“ for you??
Let's imagine how the late Busoni would have fingered the right hand (he told me
...):
bars 2, 4 & 17:
1-2-3-4-5-3-5-4-3-2-1
bar 5:
1-2-3-4-5-2-5-4-3-2-1
etc.
...and he would have „voiced“ the top notes of the 2nd and 3rd l.h. chords
much better than today's performers!!
Let's imagine how the late Busoni would have fingered the right hand (he told me

bars 2, 4 & 17:
1-2-3-4-5-3-5-4-3-2-1
bar 5:
1-2-3-4-5-2-5-4-3-2-1
etc.
...and he would have „voiced“ the top notes of the 2nd and 3rd l.h. chords
much better than today's performers!!
Best regards, Alfor S. Cans
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Well, Alfred, Var. IX bars 15 & 16 - your fingering seems better than anything else---just wish R. had written this variation in a different key, as it certainly is awkward. Your suggested Busoni-like fingering for Bars 2,4 & 17 are a little to stretchy for my small hands, so I will happily settle for what you finally decided upon. (Maybe I should spend some more time on those exercises in "Ma Technique QUottdienne" to enhance my ability to utilize Busoni-like fingering.)
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Var. X, bar 2:
If you feel unsecure when playing the two quick repeated notes with a single finger,
you can of course use the 1st and 2nd finger.
And then you can decide whether you prefer the succession 1-2
(with an outward movement of hand and arm, i.e. towards your body)
or the succession 2-1 (with an inward movement, i.e. towards the lid).
If your hand is big (stretchy) enough you can of course play the 3rd chord, l. h.,
bars 5 & 11 with 5-3-2 (from bottom to top).
If you feel unsecure when playing the two quick repeated notes with a single finger,
you can of course use the 1st and 2nd finger.
And then you can decide whether you prefer the succession 1-2
(with an outward movement of hand and arm, i.e. towards your body)
or the succession 2-1 (with an inward movement, i.e. towards the lid).
If your hand is big (stretchy) enough you can of course play the 3rd chord, l. h.,
bars 5 & 11 with 5-3-2 (from bottom to top).
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Alfred, the only change I would make to what you have written in the score in Var X is to change fingers on those repeated notes as you suggest, the rest as you have notated works fine even for my small hands.
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Intermezzo, page 15:
Cadenza:
You can take the first note of the 3rd group with the left hand (2nd finger).
Advantage: Easier to bring out the accent.
Disadvantage: The regular flow of the music might be slightly interrupted.
Third line, 3rd group: These six notes may be transferred to the left hand;
not essential and only recommended if you have problems to go smoothly
from the thumb (E flat) to the 5th finger (F)
Cadenza:
You can take the first note of the 3rd group with the left hand (2nd finger).
Advantage: Easier to bring out the accent.
Disadvantage: The regular flow of the music might be slightly interrupted.
Third line, 3rd group: These six notes may be transferred to the left hand;
not essential and only recommended if you have problems to go smoothly
from the thumb (E flat) to the 5th finger (F)
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Alfred, for the cadenza, I like how you have indicated it in the score the best.
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Does anyone have piano scores by Ivan Ivanovich Dzerzhinsky, except "Three Pieces for Children"?
Thanks in advance,
ILU.
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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Biriukov Yuri (1908- 1976) - 24 preludes
http://www.biografija.ru/biography/birj ... eevich.htm
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0% ... 0%B8%D1%87
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0% ... 0%B8%D1%87
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