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Re: Liszt

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:48 pm
by epiclisztfan
Thanks Fred, but this score is on IMSLP already (which means I was aware of it's existence). I was trying to get a better quality score but thanks either way :)

Re: Liszt

Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 12:33 pm
by epiclisztfan
I got a request for a book about Liszt this time, I would love to read the book:
Franz Liszt's music manuscripts in the national Széchényi Library, Budapest
This is the one I am looking for. Anyone got it?
This book is in the public domain (it was published in 1986).

Re: Liszt

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:21 am
by bingo
The library references I've seen clearly place it as a copyrighted work. It's unlikely to enter the public domain for a long time unless the authors explicitly release it.

Re: Liszt

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 4:20 pm
by epiclisztfan
bingo wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 5:21 am The library references I've seen clearly place it as a copyrighted work. It's unlikely to enter the public domain for a long time unless the author's explicitly release it.
Is it? Maybe I am just not so familiar with copyright laws for books.

Re: Liszt

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 2:18 am
by bingo
epiclisztfan wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 4:20 pm
bingo wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 5:21 am The library references I've seen clearly place it as a copyrighted work. It's unlikely to enter the public domain for a long time unless the authors explicitly release it.
Is it? Maybe I am just not so familiar with copyright laws for books.
It's similar for all creative works, but the term differs across jurisdictions. Assume that you have to wait for 70 years after the last author's death. Wikipedia covers the nuance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain

Re: Liszt

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:25 am
by mballan
bingo wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:18 am
epiclisztfan wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 4:20 pm
bingo wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 5:21 am The library references I've seen clearly place it as a copyrighted work. It's unlikely to enter the public domain for a long time unless the authors explicitly release it.
Is it? Maybe I am just not so familiar with copyright laws for books.
It's similar for all creative works, but the term differs across jurisdictions. Assume that you have to wait for 70 years after the last author's death. Wikipedia covers the nuance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain
It was co-authored by several people......but you can still buy the book (circa £45-55 through Amazon or other established book sellers) or try one of the many 2nd hand book sites (ABE Books has 3 copies available around £30 - see link). Last resort might be via Inter-library Loan ?

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Sear ... ults&ds=20

Malcolm

Re: Liszt

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:51 pm
by epiclisztfan
bingo wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:18 am
epiclisztfan wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 4:20 pm
bingo wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 5:21 am The library references I've seen clearly place it as a copyrighted work. It's unlikely to enter the public domain for a long time unless the authors explicitly release it.
Is it? Maybe I am just not so familiar with copyright laws for books.
It's similar for all creative works, but the term differs across jurisdictions. Assume that you have to wait for 70 years after the last author's death. Wikipedia covers the nuance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain
Oh, so it was the ‘you have to wait for 70 years after the last author's death’ part I was missing.

Re: Liszt

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:14 pm
by bingo
Semprini recorded an LP of Liszt favourites that included a Tarantelle that does not appear to correspond - even after Semprini's arrangement - to the popular Venezia e Napoli, or Liszt's arrangements of tarantellas after Auber, Cui and Dzhargomyzhsky.

The work sounds familiar (Alkan? Lecuona?) but could I suppose be a cheeky confabulation of Semprini:

The video owner doesn't know, and the LP sleeve notes don't help.
https://www.discogs.com/release/8298630 ... lays-Liszt

There's a Semprini in Concert LP with a Tarantella Vivace (Trad). which I would compare if a recording were available.
https://www.discogs.com/release/1341030 ... In-Concert

Any suggestions?

[I've written this post three times now as it's gotten lost by pp in the course of both submitting and draft saving.

Re: Liszt

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:38 pm
by louis-james-alfred
I know this tune from a pasta commercial. :D Don't think it's Liszt.


Probably some spiced up traditional. Pun intended.

Re: Liszt

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:50 pm
by bingo
louis-james-alfred wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:38 pm I know this tune from a pasta commercial. :D Don't think it's Liszt.
That's a great lead.

So the popular tune is the Tarantelle Napolitana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantella_Napoletana which Rossini used and then Liszt re-transcribed as Rossini-Liszt - Soirées musicales, IX. La danza (Tarantella) S.424