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Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:31 pm
by Timtin
Alex wrote:Thank you Kroket and Tim for your Mozart-Reinecke scans! I hope someday to have a complete collection of Mozart's piano concertos in 2H form, if possible. They are a lot of fun to play. Can't go wrong with more Mozart at my fingertips.
I recently did a typeset of a manuscript Borkiewicz song in the Vocal Music section of the forum, and thought since I had it all scored, I would make a transcription of it for those of us without a reliable vocalist at our side. Here is a nice little Bortkiewicz "piano piece"!
Hi Alex - thanks for your latest arrangement!
I'll endeavour to make some more Mozart/Reinecke's pcs
available soon, unless someone beats me to it. :-)

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:50 pm
by kroket
Alex wrote:Thank you Kroket and Tim for your Mozart-Reinecke scans! I hope someday to have a complete collection of Mozart's piano concertos in 2H form, if possible. They are a lot of fun to play. Can't go wrong with more Mozart at my fingertips.
A lot concertos are already available in some form: Sibley has 12 volumes of Lebert transcriptions: 5 (KV 175), 6 (KV 238), 8 (KV 246), 9 (KV 271), 11 (KV 413), 12 (KV 414), 13 (KV 415), 14 (KV 449), 16, (451), 17 (453), 18 (456) and 19 (459).
The 2 Hummel books have nos. 10 (365), 18 (456), 20 (466), 22 (482), 24 (491), 25 (503), 26 (537). And the wide-spread Peters/Ruthhardt has 9 (271), 15 (450), 20 (466), 21 (467), 23 (488), 24 (491) and 26 (537). The Hummel and Ruthardt are on IMLSP. With these 3 sources, only nos 1-4 (the youth arrangements), 7 (242, for 3 pianos) and 27 (595) are missing. They are in books 1 and 4 by Reinecke that both Timtin and I possess. Tim has already posted no. 1.
I'll try to scan nos 7 and 27 in the weekend. And thank you for your transcription, Alex.
Greetings, kroket

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:18 pm
by Alex
mballan wrote:Excellent..........really appreciate the work you've done on this. Any chance of any more coming from you ?

Malcolm
Most certainly! I plan to transcribe more Bortkiewicz and typeset each of the manuscripts. It takes me a while, but eventually I'll get it done.

Tim and Kroket, you are both welcome and thanks again. It's amazing how close we are to a complete scanned collection of these transcriptions.

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:10 pm
by alfor
mballan wrote:
Alex wrote:...Alex

Excellent..........really appreciate the work you've done on this. Any chance of any more coming from you ?

Malcolm
Nine times seconded ;) !!

Although the transcription of this song may have been a fairly easy task,
I too well know all the labour involved to achieve such a fine result and typesetting!!
(I myself recently did a transcription of the 1st mvt. of Mahler's Symphony No. 6 but am still
hesitating to give it away for free).

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:12 pm
by Timtin
Thank you Kroket for your useful list.
The Lebert arrangements are entirely new to me, and are an
extremely pleasant surprise! This is the link to the Sibley page,
although the numbering of the concertos is a little confusing.

https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... temId=5010

I have the Ruthardt arrangements in the Peters Edition here,
but confess that I struggled to find files of them on IMSLP.
This means that maybe we're still lacking pd scans of K39, K40,
K41, K242, K450?, K467?, and K595. A rectifiable situation! :-)

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:09 am
by phikfy
Thanks Alex for the Bortkiewicz transcription. Looking forward to more. :D

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:42 am
by kroket
Timtin wrote:I have the Ruthardt arrangements in the Peters Edition here,
but confess that I struggled to find files of them on IMSLP.
This means that maybe we're still lacking pd scans of K39, K40,
K41, K242, K450?, K467?, and K595. A rectifiable situation! :-)
I didn'' t search for Ruthardt on IMLSP, but thought I read it in a mail from 5.5.2013 by a certain Timtin: "... arrangements of all 27 were published in 4 volumes, then there are the Ruthardt arrangements of Nos.9, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, and 26, and the Hummel arrangements of Nos.10, 18, 20, 22, 24, 25, and 26, all of which are on IMSLP". But when I read that line again, your statement about IMLSP could well be meant for the Hummel alone! Anyway, the Ruthardt is very widely spread and therefor very cheap to buy second-hand.
The 467 I have already scanned, in the arrangement by Reinecke. Not my scan. Seems to be composed for a certain Elvira Madigan, with whom Mozart probably had an affair with...
Mozart arr Reinecke Pianoconcert 21 C 2H.pdf
Greetings, kroket

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:30 am
by Timtin
Thank you Kroket for the Reinecke version of K467, which I've not seen before.
Having read that old message of mine again, it was somewhat ambiguous, but
was indeed intended to refer only to the Hummel transcriptions. Sorry about that!
(More full stops and less commas from here in future, methinks.)
Cheers, Tim.

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:51 pm
by Riodk
kroket wrote:
Seems to be composed for a certain Elvira Madigan, with whom Mozart probably had an affair with...
Greetings, kroket
You are bullshitting us right ? You know the true story about Elvira Madigan ?

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:51 pm
by kroket
Riodk wrote:
kroket wrote:
Seems to be composed for a certain Elvira Madigan, with whom Mozart probably had an affair with...
Greetings, kroket
You are bullshitting us right ? You know the true story about Elvira Madigan ?
Hi Riodk,
I only knew that there was a film with that title in which the Andante was used. Now I googled and the story is about a tragic love affair, somewhat like Mayerling. Not so appropiate to make a thoughtless joke about, for which I apologize.
Greetings, kroket