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Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:38 pm
by Timtin
Thank you FW190 for all the Beethoven files 'revised' (fingered?) by Dukas!
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:25 am
by soh choon wee
I actually wonder, if Duka has edited Beethoven 32.
Also, am it too greedy to ask for Ravel's edition........... (Not just Beethove 32, but also his Mendelsohn and others), or Debussy's edition for CHopin. My country just could not get hold of these edition (only Yamaha music, who is very reluctant to order any edition other than AB or alfred)
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:10 am
by Timtin
Does anyone have a backwards mp3 file of 'Because' by The Beatles please?
Rumour has it that it's based on the Moonlight Sonata 1st. movement in reverse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWlLPJG9Cvg
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:06 pm
by parag
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:52 pm
by Timtin
Thank you Parag for the links.
The reverse of 'Because' sounds even less like the Moonlight than the forwards version.
YT seems to have several Beatles songs played backwards for some unknown reason.
Despite having started this little discussion, in absolutely no way am I a Beatles fan.
Here are links to some more information about the song and to the Moonlight in reverse:-
http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/because.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jph-b_wPQfY
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:37 am
by Timtin
Here's another popular offshoot from a Beethoven piano sonata.
Newell & Ponticelli More Than Love (based on Beethoven Op13).pdf
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:28 am
by WCosand
As long as we are considering the relationships of the Moonlight Sonata to pop culture, how about Paderewski's 1937 movie?
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... Sonata.mp4
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:46 am
by Timtin
It seems as though Beethoven's Pathetique and Moonlight Sonatas were
fertile ground for later adaptation. Here are some other examples:-
Songs based on music from the Pathetique:-
Louise Tucker - Midnight Blue
Billy Joel - This Night
Songs based on music from the Moonlight:-
Cindy and the Saffrons - Past, Present and Future
The Shangri-Las - Past, Present and Future
Yngwie J. Malmsteen - Arpeggios from Hell
Alicia Keys - Piano and I
http://www.music.us/education/L/List-of ... -music.htm
http://www.allegro.philharmonic.me.uk/
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:11 pm
by klaviersonic
I have the first volume of Liszt's Bosworth Edition. It is indeed arranged by difficulty! I may do a scan project, but I don't open it often as it's fragile.
It's not what you're expecting if you want many interesting fingerings and performance suggestions, like Schnabel, Arrau, or Bulow. It's almost an Urtext! Liszt had much more respect for Beethoven's text than a composer like Weber and even Schubert whose work Liszt willfully adds ossia passages to make more brilliant!
soh choon wee wrote:quercus wrote:I recently learned that there's an edition of the complete Beethoven sonatas edited by Liszt. Does anyone have a copy they can post, or know where to find a download of it?
Thanks in advance
Bill
I believe there are two editions (claimed to be Liszt edition). One is by Zen-On from Japan, no fingering nor pedalling. I personally doubt its claim.
The other is a Bowsworth (or something like that) two volumes....... and in the order of difficulties (as decided by Liszt) with fingerings and pedalling suggestion. I had seen volume 2 from Royal Academy of Music library in London. I doubt they have the first volume.
Sorry, i have no access to RAM library (despite i manage to get the librarian to let me in once to browse at their collections, there are some etudes gems i had never seen in my life).
I think, Bela Bartok had a Complete Beethoven too (just like his Bach 48 and Mozart). I had seen the Mozart, very conventional suggestion, but i think his Bach is better.
Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:25 pm
by sgambatiesque
More popular Beethoven: Athens, doubly ruined by Jean-Jacques Perrey in
The Elephant Never Forgets.
And from my childhood my first exposure to Beethoven, the Seekers'
Emerald City.
