Frédéric Chopin
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
manipulated some more images from Chicago and posted B-flat major Polonaise
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... 1855ed.pdf
ands some of my very favorite music: opus 62 in the 1846 first edition:
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... arised.pdf
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... 1855ed.pdf
ands some of my very favorite music: opus 62 in the 1846 first edition:
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... arised.pdf
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Query: Chopin's posthumous Polonaise in B flat minor, dedicated to his friend Guillaume Kolberg is apparently inspired by an aria from La gazza Ladra. Does anyone know which one(s)?
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Walter, thanks for posting these first editions, it is wonderful to see how they compare with subsequent versions. I think your students must love it when you show them the original editions of such masterpieces.WCosand wrote:manipulated some more images from Chicago and posted B-flat major Polonaise
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... 1855ed.pdf
ands some of my very favorite music: opus 62 in the 1846 first edition:
http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... arised.pdf
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Very interesting question!parag wrote:Query: Chopin's posthumous Polonaise in B flat minor, dedicated to his friend Guillaume Kolberg is apparently inspired by an aria from La gazza Ladra. Does anyone know which one(s)?
Thanks,
Parag
Having spent ages trying find the answer, the best I can come up with is
the Trio between poor Ninetta, Podesta and Fernando near the end of Act1.
Since this number is a Terzetto rather than an Aria, I'm a bit doubtful,
although there is an echo of its main theme in the Chopin Polonaise.
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Thanks Tim... is there a "goodbye/Adieu/Au revoir" Aria in the opera? I am an imbecile when it comes to operas...Timtin wrote: Very interesting question!
Having spent ages trying find the answer, the best I can come up with is
the Trio between poor Ninetta, Podesta and Fernando near the end of Act1.
Since this number is a Terzetto rather than an Aria, I'm a bit doubtful,
although there is an echo of its main theme in the Chopin Polonaise.

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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Well, there's a duet 'Goodbye for now, my darling' in the middle of Act1,
sung by Ninetta and her father Fernando, when she gets slung into prison
for allegedly steeling a silver spoon, but nothing in that seems to resemble
the Chopin Polonaise.
It's a very engaging work, based on true story. In the opera, Ninetta is
saved from execution at the last minute when a magpie is revealed to
be the true silver thief. The story on which it is based didn't have such
a happy ending.
I think we need a Rossini or a Chopin scholar to answer your question definitively.
sung by Ninetta and her father Fernando, when she gets slung into prison
for allegedly steeling a silver spoon, but nothing in that seems to resemble
the Chopin Polonaise.
It's a very engaging work, based on true story. In the opera, Ninetta is
saved from execution at the last minute when a magpie is revealed to
be the true silver thief. The story on which it is based didn't have such
a happy ending.
I think we need a Rossini or a Chopin scholar to answer your question definitively.
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Actually, there does seem to be a slight similarity.
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Well, I found the following informations in a book dedicated to Chopin, written in 1984 by an eminent italian scholar, Gastone Belotti.
Chopin wrote the Polonaise in bb in the summer of 1826 after having attended a performance of "La gazza ladra" with his friend W.Kolberg. The Trio is based on the cavatina of Giannetto in the first act.
Among the lost works of Chopin there is a "Polacca su temi del Barbiere di Siviglia" written in 1825. Another "Polacca su motivi di Rossini e Spontini" seems to be one of the pieces composing a Book of lessons written by Chopin for Izabela Grabowska around 1824. The book was described by the russian composer and critic Alexander Koptiajev in 1911 but as far as Belotti knows it has not yet been rediscovered and should lie in the basement of some russian library.
Chopin wrote the Polonaise in bb in the summer of 1826 after having attended a performance of "La gazza ladra" with his friend W.Kolberg. The Trio is based on the cavatina of Giannetto in the first act.
Among the lost works of Chopin there is a "Polacca su temi del Barbiere di Siviglia" written in 1825. Another "Polacca su motivi di Rossini e Spontini" seems to be one of the pieces composing a Book of lessons written by Chopin for Izabela Grabowska around 1824. The book was described by the russian composer and critic Alexander Koptiajev in 1911 but as far as Belotti knows it has not yet been rediscovered and should lie in the basement of some russian library.