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Re: Etudes

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:28 am
by 4candles
4candles wrote:For posterity, and in case anyone is interested, I have discovered from contacting the French National Library that all studies from 'Les Pathétiques' by Émile Forgues were indeed published, but Flaxland never sent duty copies of the collective work to the Library. Here are what I believe are the names of the individual studies (including opus numbers) that made up the set, one of which we have seen in PP:

"In Durand-Schoenewerk's catalogues of 1872 (p. 23) and 1875 (p. 26), the following works are listed (prices in brackets):
- Les pathétiques [... both books [were] available separately or together... each étude [was] also available separately]
- op. 10, Les flots (7,50)
- op. 11, Romance dramatique (5)
- op. 12, Le départ (7,50)
- op. 13, Canzonetta (6)
- op. 14, Marche funèbre (7,50)
- op. 15, Scherzo en sixtes (6)
- op. 16, Improvisata (5)
- op. 17, Le mouvement perpétuel (10)
- op. 18, Méditation (5) [obviously the same as "Mélancolie"]
- op. 19, La sérénade (7,50)
- op. 20, Ballade (5)
- op. 21, Le trémolo (7,50)"

Tantalising and very disappointing (for me anyway) that we may never see or hear most of these works, by a popular pianist of the time.

To confirm Caprotti's statement, only three of the études seem to be available in any of the main European libraries, according to the BNF - the Scherzo, the Méditation and 'Le mouvement perpétuel' - I intend to track them down!
I'm delighted to say that the University of Miami has provided me with this scan free of charge. It took them less than a day to get back to me with this, and I haven't been requested to not share it:

Émile Forgues (1823-1876) - Mouvement Perpétuel, Op. 17, ed. Isidor Philipp
Mouvement perpétuel.pdf
I have ordered three other works by Forgues from Paris, so these should appear soon on Gallica.

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:19 am
by fleubis
A lovely etude, this Mouvement Perpétuel by Forgues. Playing it, it is very much like a tarantelle. Please advise us of when more of his works show up on Gallica and pray they don't give us a 75dpi scan :D . The few pieces we have by Forgues are very well done and much fun to play.


Thanks, 4candles.

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:48 am
by soh choon wee
Is there a commented edition of Brahms 51???

I had seen (at least two) commented editions of Hanon..... (remember one is a Peters edition) that the editor commented and expanded on Hanon... to make advance studies and exercise out of the usual rhythmic change.

Just wonder have any one make similar editions for Brahms.

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:48 am
by parag
Hinson has..

Check this google books link and scroll away.

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=fpv_ ... &q&f=false

Parag

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:40 pm
by soh choon wee
parag wrote:Hinson has..

Check this google books link and scroll away.

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=fpv_ ... &q&f=false


Parag
Thanks.....but not quite as much as Weinreich had done for Hanon....
http://edition-peters.com/product/the-virtuoso-pianist-
(ger-preface)/ep4354?TRE00000/

I truncated the link to Peters Edition.... please cut both portion and paste together. If not the link would not work as it is perhaps too long.

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:05 am
by 4candles
fleubis wrote:A lovely etude, this Mouvement Perpétuel by Forgues. Playing it, it is very much like a tarantelle. Please advise us of when more of his works show up on Gallica and pray they don't give us a 75dpi scan :D . The few pieces we have by Forgues are very well done and much fun to play.


Thanks, 4candles.
You're welcome fleubis :D

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:50 pm
by 4candles
A link to Book IV of Joseph Grégoir's Grandes Etudes, Op. 99:

http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000127322&page=1

4c

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:39 pm
by fleubis
Thank you 4Candles. The Grégoir' is a nice find! Let's hope the other 3 volumes appear. This 4th volume is excellent.

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:51 pm
by pianojay
4candles wrote:A link to Book IV of Joseph Grégoir's Grandes Etudes, Op. 99:

http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000127322&page=1

4c
And here is Book IV of Joseph Grégoir's Grandes Etudes, Op. 99:
Grégoir, Joseph-Grandes Etudes 19-24.pdf

Re: Piano Etudes

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:53 am
by Caprotti
Sorry, I can't understand which is your added value comparing your post with the BNE reference, which allows to download the pdf, which, by the way, is circulating at least since one month ago ....