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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:20 pm
by isokani
emzett wrote:
Duirton wrote:
For Isokani: not count absolutely for the help by Daniele Lombardi. I've already try to require the his help (not yesterday, but for years!) not only for Lourié but also others scores. He have refused to send me anything!; and this when he reply at the mail (which happens VERY rarely...).


Duirton
Hello to all,

in case of Lourié I could recommend to contact the Lourié-Society (http://www.lourie.ch/), Mr. Hulliger is very helpful.

best regards, emzett
I tried ...

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:38 pm
by mballan
And the last section so far cleaned by Parag.....and the remainder of the "K"s. Unfortunately with this batch there are several composers where I have been unable to locate any biographical information.........I would be grateful to any member who is able to throw any light on these - or any of the "unknown" - Russian composers we have posted.

Kornikov D - no further information known on this composer.

Trois Preludes
Korniloff D - Trois Preludes.pdf
Kornilov I – no further information known on this composer.

Elegie (Valse)
Korniloff I - Elegie.pdf
Mark Isaakovich Korsounsky [Korsunsky] – no further information known on this composer.

Op 1 Trois Morceaux [1. Moment Muscial 2. Etude 3. Impromptu]
Korsounsky - Op 1 Trois Morceaux.pdf
Koslov H – no further information known on this composer.

Op 9 Moment musical a la Schubert
Kosloff - Op 9 Moment Musical a la Schubert.pdf
Op 11 Etude
Kosloff - Op 11 Etude.pdf
Nikolai Razumnikovich Kochetov [Kotchetoff]. Born 1864, Oranienbaume: died ? Composer, conductor and musical reviewer. Originally studied law at Moscow University, following a musical education independently. Studied counterpoint with Laroche and instrumentation with Erdmann. Graduated in 1889 and worked in law until 1893, when he then began to dedicate himself to music.
From 1886 worked as a music critic for several publications, and from 1895 as a conductor, including promoting summer symphonic concerts in Moscow (1900 & 1901). He taught in a number of music schools, and from 1906-20 taught in the synodal school. In 1921 was one of the creaters and organisers of the Institute of Music Science (HYMN). He composed an opera “Terrible Vengence” based on a story by Gogol; Arabian Suite for orchestra Op 3 (1893), Symphony in E minor Op. 8 (1894-5), Symphony No. 2 (1911), music to the tragedy ‘Polotsk Razorenie’ Op 7 (1895) [later published as Suite No. 2], Piano Concerto (1922), Waltz-Serenade for string orchestra; for piano - Op 5, Op 9 ‘On the bosom of Prirodi’, Op 11 Esquisses Orientale, Op 12, Op 13 Trois Morceaux, Op 14 Impromptus, Op 31 & Op 43; and twenty-four romances [Op. 1 (5), 2, 4, 6, 15, 16 (5), 18 (6)]. A number of his works were never published.

Op 7 A la Balalaika [from Suite No. 2]
Kotchetoff - Op 7 A la Balalaika (from Suite No. 2).pdf
Op 11 Esquisses Orientales
Kotchetoff - Op 11 Esquisses Orientales.pdf
Op 13 Trois Morceaux [1. Dumka 2. Berceuse 3. Chanson]
Kotchetoff - Op 13 Trois Morceaux.pdf
Op 31 Valses Miniatures [6 pieces]
Kotchetoff - Op 31 Valses Miniatures.pdf
Kotov P - no further information known on this composer.

Op 1 Six Morceaux Lyriques
Kotov P - Op 1 Morceaux Lyriques.pdf
Malcolm & Parag

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:19 pm
by Dani_area_51
Thank you!! I have a very good feeling towards Kotchetoff. Keep up the good work.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:58 pm
by Duirton
At your situation, I would not be too sure...!
I've already tried to contact the Lourié-Society; but Mr. Hulliger have refused to send me the Op.13, and for the Op.40 has invented that had not the score.
Have refused to send me also -Dialogue- that is only two pages.
The explication is absolutely ridiculous; Mr. Hullinger SAY that had signed an document at the NYPL in which said that the scores were only for the Lourie-Society...(!!) The NYPL can not oblige nobody at keep exclusively for the personal use one score; otherwise it give not at disposal of those who ask. Is a manuscript, not have a copyright. So much so that the scores are posted on PP.

I could add other things, but is better if I stop here...
I would found more respectful for me if Mr. Hulliger said me: no, I want not give the score to you, instead to invented thousand untruth...

Duirton




emzett wrote:
Duirton wrote:
For Isokani: not count absolutely for the help by Daniele Lombardi. I've already try to require the his help (not yesterday, but for years!) not only for Lourié but also others scores. He have refused to send me anything!; and this when he reply at the mail (which happens VERY rarely...).


Duirton
Hello to all,

in case of Lourié I could recommend to contact the Lourié-Society (http://www.lourie.ch/), Mr. Hulliger is very helpful.

best regards, emzett

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:07 am
by emzett
mballan wrote:From what I can see
Op 13 is likely missing two pages from the 5th piece....if we can hopefully obtain those suspected missing pages.

Malcolm
As far as I can see only this page is missing from op. 13
Masque Nº 5,page 1.pdf
br emzett

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:09 pm
by vvedenskij
a question for the lourie cognescenti: the work list on http://www.lourie.ch/lourie features op. 14 "syntheses" (1914) and op. 16 "delires (syntheses)" (1914). are these indeed two distinct works? and for "rojal’v detskoj/piano gosse" there appear to be different editions with 7 vs. 8 pieces ... anybody been able to compare those?

many thanks,

vv

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:41 pm
by mballan
vvedenskij wrote:a question for the lourie cognescenti: the work list on http://www.lourie.ch/lourie features op. 14 "syntheses" (1914) and op. 16 "delires (syntheses)" (1914). are these indeed two distinct works? and for "rojal’v detskoj/piano gosse" there appear to be different editions with 7 vs. 8 pieces ... anybody been able to compare those?

many thanks,

vv
An interesting point vvedenskij.....officially they appear to be two separate works but I've only ever seen Op 16 so can not verify if different. Be very curious to see if anyone has Op 14 to compare ?

As for "rojal’v detskoj/piano gosse" the standard edition included just 7 pieces......whilst the Schirmer edition apparently had 8 pieces [and I've listed all 8 in my "book" in the Information section]. I've only actually seen the 7 piece version to date.

Malcolm

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:21 pm
by vvedenskij
thanks, malcolm,

seems like 7 of the "rojal’v detskoj/piano gosse" pieces are identical, based on the bilingual titles ... (although the french "translation" of the russian titles appears rather imaginative) ... and your book, of course, has been a source of endless fascination for me ...

best,

vv

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:40 am
by remy
Anton Arensky 6 Essais Sur Des Rythmes Oubliés, Op.28

Alfor kindly posted the second piece of the set, Péons, and No.1 Logaédes is at classicscore.

Does anyone have the other four pieces, especially No.6 Strophe Sapphique?

Thanks very much.


jeremy

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:14 am
by mballan
remy wrote:Anton Arensky 6 Essais Sur Des Rythmes Oubliés, Op.28

Alfor kindly posted the second piece of the set, Péons, and No.1 Logaédes is at classicscore.

Does anyone have the other four pieces, especially No.6 Strophe Sapphique?

Thanks very much.


jeremy
Hi Jeremy

I do have the full set of Op 28 but I am in the throws of selling my house and much of my music is currently in storage and difficult to access [but I'll check to see if I can locate my Arensky collection]. I can scan this at some stage if not urgent [unless someone else kindly manages to post this score in the meantime]. I will also check with Peter [Mr P] as I may have shared a copy with him.

Malcolm