Pianophilia

soh choon wee wrote:...I begin to wonder, did Kreutzer also edit the two piano concertos?

Yes, he did!

http://www.justbooks.de/search/?ac=sl&s ... %2E%252012

These prices are ridiculous! That said, it is apparent that others perceive the value of Kreutzer's editing as we do. Also, I didn't have any luck at JustBooks finding Kreutzer's edition of the Etudes there.

fleubis wrote:These prices are ridiculous! That said, it is apparent that others perceive the value of Kreutzer's editing as we do. Also, I didn't have any luck at JustBooks finding Kreutzer's edition of the Etudes there.

$49.74 (if shipped to Panama) for 235 pages of music!!

Kreutzer was a well-known teacher (of Karl-Ulrich Schnabel for example) at the Berlin Hochschule für Musik. But surely his Chopin edition survived only a couple of years in print...out-of-print at least since 1933!!

How about a link for those etudes, Alfor, I cannot find them.

fleubis wrote:How about a link for those etudes, Alfor, I cannot find them.

A misunderstanding! Not the Etudes are for sale, but Kreutzer's edition of both Piano Concertos, the Allegro de Concert op. 46 and Variations op. 12! (See the justbooks.de link above!)

Alas, the search for the missing etudes must continue! If I played those concertos, I'd be rushing for my VISA card, but I don't.

Thanks very much, Alfor for the Kreutzer editions of Chopin. His careful and detailed pedaling is very interesting, especially in the F# Major Prelude and the octave section of the Heroic Polonaise. I've played the Polonaise for many years, and it never occurred to me to use the pedal at all for the octaves, except in the double crescendo.

It's a little strange that at the end of the introduction of the 1st Ballade, the left hand chord doesn't include the Eb. I know there are editions with the Eb and some with the D, but to my ears, the Eb sounds sooooo right.

And many thanks for that naughty but wonderful edition in another thread.


jeremy

remy wrote:Thanks very much, Alfor for the Kreutzer editions of Chopin. His careful and detailed pedaling is very interesting, especially in the F# Major Prelude and the octave section of the Heroic Polonaise. I've played the Polonaise for many years, and it never occurred to me to use the pedal at all for the octaves, except in the double crescendo.

It's a little strange that at the end of the introduction of the 1st Ballade, the left hand chord doesn't include the Eb. I know there are editions with the Eb and some with the D, but to my ears, the Eb sounds sooooo right.

And many thanks for that naughty but wonderful edition in another thread.


jeremy

You are welcome, dear Jeremy!

No more Chopin-Kreutzer at the moment, but I will post Kreutzer's edition of Beethoven's „Waldstein“ Sonata.

Isidor Philipp, that intelligent pianist, composer and teacher, has compiled two volumes of Exercices quotidiens tirés des oeuvres de Chopin. I only have volume 1, which has two parts: Octaves and Double-notes. I would be very glad if someone could one day post volume two.
Greetings, kroket
http://www.mediafire.com/view/f6ezdl5z8 ... l.%201.pdf