Pianophilia

Die Nächtlichen I:

(sorry, but less light at night )

Some delightful nocturnes to play this evening. That op.9 no.1 remains hard for me to play today as ever without excessive rubato! But tonite I try again. I remain as intrigued by the harmonies in op.9 no.2 as ever.

As expected from Kreutzer, he gives us exquisite pedaling and fingering indications. Especially nice is to see the phrasing delineated with the comma (,). It's all just clear as a bell to me, what Kreutzer wants here--and I like it.

A welcome addition for all us nocturne players out there. Thank you, Alfred.

Die Nächtlichen II:

alfor wrote:Dear Ferruccio,

two things are very obvious with L.v.B.:

1) Like all composers of this period he was well aware of all subleties of tone and key relationships;
von Tonartencharakteristik - die ja ursprünglich den in der Tat unterschiedlich klingenden Stimmungen von Tasteninstrumenten geschuldet ist - bis zu den subtil „ausgehorchten“ Tonartbeziehungen der einzelnen Sätze untereinander. BTW, is there any historical testimony whether L.v. B. had perfect pitch (then calibrated nearly a semitone lower than today!!!)?

2) Despite the amount of pure „labour“ (as testified by his numerous sketchbooks), he was a man of considerable genius (especially in his late sonatas).

best regards

alfor

Habe ich niemals bestritten, im Gegenteil.

Ferruccio wrote:...Habe ich niemals bestritten, im Gegenteil.

Sollte auch nur ein kleiner allgemeiner Zusatz zu Deinen diesbezüglichen Gedanken sein .

(Für die Allgemeinheit sollten wir vielleicht japanische, chinesische und spanische
Übersetzungen beifügen?!)

I personally think it is much more important to have a personal feeling for these "Tonartencharakter" and the relative positions of keys to each other than the perfect pitch in Hz and Cent.
Therefore it is not so important for a genius like Beethoven, if he had perfect pitch in our temperature or lower. This does not really match the important thing.
Ok, Platitüde, I know.

alfor wrote:

Ferruccio wrote:...Habe ich niemals bestritten, im Gegenteil.

Sollte auch nur ein kleiner allgemeiner Zusatz zu Deinen diesbezüglichen Gedanken sein .

(Für die Allgemeinheit sollten wir vielleicht japanische, chinesische und spanische
Übersetzungen beifügen?!)

Ok, Alfor !!

Ferruccio wrote:I personally think it is much more important to have a personal feeling for these "Tonartencharakter" and the relative positions of keys to each other than the perfect pitch in Hz and Cent.
Therefore it is not so important for a genius like Beethoven, if he had perfect pitch in our temperature or lower. This does not really match the important thing.
Ok, Platitüde, I know.

To my knowledge there are many musicians with perfect pitch which complain of being disturbed by it in practical music making. Platitüde, ok.

On perfect pitch..... I always wonder, is their perfect pitch on A=440Hz?? or different individuals with range between A=434Hz to A=442Hz?

On a side note, do they have a problem (or a benefit) when they have voice lessons?