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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:41 pm
by alfor
isokani wrote:Thanks for your "thumbs up" re. Pavel Lamm. By the way, a friend of mine made a jazz record called "An Exhibitionist at the Pictures" ...
It is a definite fact that the Soviet ”Urtext" edition was never available outside the USSR. Amazing that the
old Peters edition edited by Walter Niemann (containing the Rimsky version!) is still in print!!
Now I am curious to check whether Moiseiwitsch did use the Urtext in his 1945 recording...
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:55 pm
by alfor
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:15 pm
by alfor
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:05 pm
by alfor
Pictures manuscript:
(nms)
Mussorgsky Pictures Manuscript.pdf
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:01 am
by phikfy
alfor wrote:
M. was a heavy drunkard. Imho the following was his first (slightly unsuccessful) attempt to jot down the first bars:
Mussorgsky_Urtext.pdf
Immodest Mussorgsky.

Thanks for the joke Alfor.
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:55 am
by fleubis
Alas, Alfred, your urtext edition is too big for my small hands!

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:58 am
by isokani
alfor wrote:Pictures manuscript:
(nms)
Mussorgsky Pictures Manuscript.pdf
This is really excellent! Many thanks indeed. I can now solve (maybe) all textual issues myself.
Again, much appreciated!
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:21 am
by HullandHellandHalifax
phikfy wrote:alfor wrote:
M. was a heavy drunkard. Imho the following was his first (slightly unsuccessful) attempt to jot down the first bars:
Mussorgsky_Urtext.pdf
Immodest Mussorgsky.

Thanks for the joke Alfor.
I would just like to correct the impression everyone has of Mussorgsky as the world champion drunkard, he was that for sure but when he was composing he remained stone cold sober throughout the time he was busy composing. Pictures was written down in two weeks I believe and in that time he never had one drink. You only have to examine the manuscript and see how neat it is that it does beg the question if you look at a Beethoven manuscript which of the two was the drunkard. Incidentally for those whose financial means are small the Konemann edition of Mussorgsky's piano works is also based on the manuscript and presumably the Russian Lamm edition, as for all the editions based on Rimsky's well-intentioned improvements then I suggest the bottom of the bird cage or for making paper aeroplanes.
regards and success to isokani
Brian
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:01 pm
by mballan
Aleksandr Ivanovich Rubets’. Born 1838, Chuhuiv: died 1913, Starodub. Ukrainian choral conductor, teacher and musicologist. Originally studied in Kharkiv, later graduated from the St Petersburg Conservatoire in 1886 after studies with Zaremba. He later taught music theory and choral sings at the conservatoire. A noted collector of Ukrainian folk music - he published a collection of Ukrainian national folk-songs in 1870, and a collection of Ukrainian dances in 1872. He was also author of books on music theory and choral singing. He was recognised as such an expert on Ukrainian music that Tchaikovsky and Rimsky-Korsakov referred to him when composing their respective operas, Mazeppa and May Night. In the mid-1890’s Rubets' lost his sight, and finally settled at the family estate at Starodub in the Chernigiv province, where he continued to run his own music and arts school until his death.
Had to do all of this scan in greyscale as original copy was so poor.
Malcolm
Rubets' A - Twenty Ukrainian National Dances.pdf
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:44 pm
by alfor
News from the
„fabbrica diteggiatura“:
S. O. S. RACHMANINOFF
Piano Concerto No. 2 op. 18
alfor fingered
Rachmaninoff PC #2 fingered.pdf