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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:19 pm
by ilu
Dear Frank:

You are very welcome, I am glad that this information is useful o you as well other members.

ILU.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:21 am
by mballan
My thanks too Ilu, I did not have any informationj on Arends, so have added to my book: and thanks also to FredBucket......the dissertation was an interesting and informative read. There are so many of these obscure 19th century Russian composers, so great when some information surfaces.

Malcolm

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:50 pm
by ilu
Dear Malcolm:

You are very welcome, i am glad to share this information.

Best regards.

ILU.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:15 pm
by mballan
Vladimir Rebikov (1866-1920) hopefully needs little introduction, and IMSLP has a fantastic selection of his many works. However, the following I am not aware are on that site, not have been posted previously on Pianophilia (I hope) !

Malcolm
Rebikov - Op 2 Six Morceaux No. 3 Danse des Odalisques [mhb].pdf
Rebikov - Op 33 'Aus dem Tagebuche' Six Miniatures No. 4 Valse Miniature.pdf
Rebikov - Neuf Morceaux Lyrique [mhb].pdf

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:21 pm
by Jean-Séb
Thank you, Malcolm. Rebikov is always appreciated.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:46 pm
by Scriabinoff
thanks for that Malc! Rebikov's a sort of tragic figure. He really did feel 'burned' by the artistic society and I do wonder if there is some truth to the distinction others earned using techniques like may well have been the first to pioneer. it's unfortunate he wasn't quite early enough to be super progressive or substantial enough later in the movement to get the recognition he felt he deserved and I think he should have received. Today at least he's not completely unknown but I don't think I've ever seen a public master class with a Rebikov work or any music school recitals featuring his music. Sad really, what little I have learned in the past I liked a lot and really should seek out more (just a function of too much lit, not enough time I suppose.... :roll: )

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:49 pm
by isokani
Hello everyone!
I'm learning Pictures from an Exhibition by Musorgsky. I'm aware that editions of this composer's music have been considered problematic in the past. I'm learning from the Pavel Lamm 1939 collected works edition. Does anyone have any opinions or, even, a copy of the ms? All advice gratefully received.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:01 pm
by alfor
isokani wrote:Hello everyone!
I'm learning Pictures from an Exhibition by Musorgsky. I'm aware that editions of this composer's music have been considered problematic in the past. I'm learning from the Pavel Lamm 1939 collected works edition. Does anyone have any opinions or, even, a copy of the ms? All advice gratefully received.
What I know is that for many decades this work has only been published in the revised (”polished") version by Rimsky-Korsakoff. The Schott edition by Alfred Kreutz may have been the first ever Urtext edition. In the 1950s Eduard Erdmann made a broadcast recording, obviously using the Urtext.

Meanwhile there are at least 5 Urtext editions available (Schott, Bärenreiter, Wiener Urtext, Peters, Henle), mostly still in print. I could offer a private scan of the Schott edition, which imho has a very good, though somewhat idiosyncratic, fingering.

All best

alfor

P.S. One further point: The overly powerful "wide screen" readings of this work by S. Richter imho opinion have spoiled a good many performances. You should listen to the Erdmann recording. Furthermore I am in possession of a rare recording by an unknown german pianist. Both recordings reveal that this work my be even more impressive when performed strictly observing the composer's dynamics etc.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:59 pm
by alfor
P.P.S. Just checked the Pavel Lamm edition: definitely Urtext!
Forgot to mention the nice edition by Nancy Bricard (Alfred Masterwork Edition).

I could provide the "Critical Notes" from the Wiener Urtext edition (published in 1984).

"Critical Notes" of the 1992 Henle edition:
Mussorgsky Critical Notes.pdf
M. was a heavy drunkard. Imho the following was his first (slightly unsuccessful) attempt to jot down the first bars:
Mussorgsky_Urtext.pdf

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:10 pm
by isokani
Thanks for your "thumbs up" re. Pavel Lamm. By the way, a friend of mine made a jazz record called "An Exhibitionist at the Pictures" ...