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Jim Faston wrote:

fleubis wrote:

Ferruccio wrote:

fleubis wrote:Hmm! Op.25 No.10. This is one piece I added to my "not playing this anymore" list after hearing Horowitz play this in person (2nd row seat!). Anyway, I agree those measures 27 & 28 are at the very least a bit perplexing.

Did Horowitz play the octaves with finger legato and audible inner melody or as a cascade of noisy staccato octaves with lots of pedal?

No, definitely not finger legato--not possible at the speed he played it. Yes lots of pedal, but in spite of this pedaling the inner voices came through most of the time. I recall on several instances, him playing the top notes with the 3rd finger! Horowitz was not as his best when I heard him, being under the influence of drugs at the time. I don't think he ever recorded this particular etude.

Were you at the concert from which this recording originates?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r15JBsbixqk

Wow! Thanks for this link. I never knew that Horowitz has made a recording of this. Though this is Horowitz at his worst form, one can still finds a very unique reading. The dramatic quality, the thunder he would inflict on this piece, the singing slow section, all are quaint-essential Horowitizan specialities. I got the insight, which the most precise and accurate modern recordings / renditions cannot give, at all.

Für 0 Kreu(t)zer:

Ah, our beloved Mazurkas! Kreutzer gives us another fine edition. A fresh opportunity to play through some of these I've not touched in years. To my ears only a few of the great pianists are really able to pull these pieces off convincingly, but I shall never cease trying, especially when some fresh ideas are available, as here.

Thank you, Alfred.

fleubis wrote:Ah, our beloved Mazurkas! Kreutzer gives us another fine edition. A fresh opportunity to play through some of these I've not touched in years. To my ears only a few of the great pianists are really able to pull these pieces off convincingly, but I shall never cease trying, especially when some fresh ideas are available, as here.

Thank you, Alfred.

You are welcome!

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1 Kreu(t)zer = 3 Pfifferlinge???

alfor wrote:1 Kreu(t)zer = 3 Pfifferlinge???

Chopin Scherzo op.20 ed. Kreutzer.pdf

Ohne Maggi(c) läuft da gar nix

Danke für die Kreuter // Didi

didi wrote:

alfor wrote:1 Kreu(t)zer = 3 Pfifferlinge???

Chopin Scherzo op.20 ed. Kreutzer.pdf

Ohne Maggi(c) läuft da gar nix

Danke für die Kreuter // Didi

Bitte sehr!

Ich spielte eigentlich darauf an, dass meine scans offenbar für viele keinen Pfifferling wert zu sein scheinen.

Für alle Pfifferlingssammler:

Alfred, undoubtedly there are more collectors than players here at Pianophilia. But there are a good many PLAYERS out there who's hands your beautiful hires scans end up in. It's like a tree with many branches, the spreading of the wealth originating here, but it is just not that apparent when viewed only from the number of downloads.

And today we have the most popular Scherzo in a lovely Kreutzer edition. This particular score seems a bit more crowded than some of the others, but so much more useable, IMHO. I had fun today comparing it with several editions, and see that it time for me to retire a few, like the Henle urtext. The pedaling indications alone are extremely useful--compare this to the sparse pedaling in Cortot, or the equally sparse Henle.

Thank you for a welcome edition of this Scherzo, Alfred.

Oh!! The ending of the 1st Scherzo!! Horowitz played that way exactly. Thanks Alfor for posting the Scherzi. Some interesting places like the redistribution of hands when playing the 10th arpeggios in the 2nd Scherzo and the highlight of inner voice progression in the slow section of the 1st one. "Romantic" edition of these staples of the Romantic period.