Pianophilia

Maybe you should look better for pedal marks in volume I. In the edition I have (1931), you find three pedal marks already under the first line of the first sonata (op.2 n°1). And they are everywhere in the rest of the work. You can also read paragraph 5 of the preface about the pedals.

Jean-Séb wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:22 am Maybe you should look better for pedal marks in volume I. In the edition I have (1931), you find three pedal marks already under the first line of the first sonata (op.2 n°1). And they are everywhere in the rest of the work. You can also read paragraph 5 of the preface about the pedals.

Yes, I know that. But in this link from archive.org (Sonatas volume I) you will see on page 13, (sonata op.2 nº 1) that these pedal marks doesn't exit. That's why I ask if there are two different editions from Tovey and Craxton. One with pedal and other without.

https://archive.org/details/bethovencomplete0000unse



And now with pedal markings. Again,Craxton and Tovey edition. From Alicia de Larrocha Archive.



Definitely, I don't understand anything.

i used to use AB edition in 1970s when i was a student.....
cannot recall where i left those volumns now.......

Without finding them.... my memory seems that there were pedal markings.......(hope i can find my scores) and i think also fingering.....

But i cannot understand why it is suddenly having a revival...... for quite many years, Henle and Wien seems most popular.

No idea on the pedal discrepancy.

Here's Vol 1. I was able to pull it from the Internet Archive with a browser extension. I couldn't find Vol 3, did you see it?

soh choon wee wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:03 pm i used to use AB edition in 1970s when i was a student.....
cannot recall where i left those volumns now.......

Without finding them.... my memory seems that there were pedal markings.......(hope i can find my scores) and i think also fingering.....

But i cannot understand why it is suddenly having a revival...... for quite many years, Henle and Wien seems most popular.

I collect Beethoven Sonatas Editions. Until now, I have 15 of them. Of course, Henle, Wien , Barry Cooper, Stewart Gordon are more "recomedable". Even so, Angela Hewitt and other pianists still use Tovey/Craxton edition.

quercus wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:04 pm No idea on the pedal discrepancy.

Here's Vol 1. I was able to pull it from the Internet Archive with a browser extension. I couldn't find Vol 3, did you see it?

Beethoven - piano sonatas vol 1 (Craxton Tovey).pdf

Many thanks.

Sorry, I didn't see vol. 3.

Nowadays, ABRSM sells this Tovey/Craxton edition. Does anyone know if it includes pedal markings?

kapsweiss2017 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:32 pm Nowadays, ABRSM sells this Tovey/Craxton edition. Does anyone know if it includes pedal markings?

MIne (purchased in 1970) is a bluish-grey color.

I think sometime from mid 80s, ABRSM come with colorful cover...... green for Schubert, Orange-brown for Brahms, pink for mendelssohn.....

And it *never* stays open and so you will *never* learn the bloomin' sonatas

How could I clean some grey or yellow music scores? I have D'Albert's Beethoven sonatas edition on three pdfs and I like to clean them.
I could upload them to the thread if someone is interested.