Pianophilia

isokani wrote:Dear Alfor
thanks for this Jemnitz. I think we have quite a few of his scores now and this is an excellent addition. I've been thinking of playing some of his music for a while ... and perhaps it will be soon time to start. Got to learn Lavapies first, though.

Good luck for Isaac!
(I could never understand why "Triana" has been the most popular piece of Iberia. Imho some other numbers are much better.)

P.S. If you are interested in the fingered edition by Guillermo González, let me know.
P.P.S. How did you like the Hiller Chaseles?

I have the Gonzalez edition -- but I think there's already so much information in each bar, that adding fingerings (that work for one person) is frankly too much! It's a pity Albeniz didn't add any (as far as I know) -- but I think he was far too ill to play the pieces when he was writing them. Gonzalez's fingerings are from many pianists -- it would have been good to know which pianists suggested which ... I'd love to see a facsimile of the ms ... I saw one advertised, for about 200 euros!

isokani wrote:I have the Gonzalez edition -- but I think there's already so much information in each bar, that adding fingerings (that work for one person) is frankly too much! It's a pity Albeniz didn't add any (as far as I know) -- but I think he was far too ill to play the pieces when he was writing them. Gonzalez's fingerings are from many pianists -- it would have been good to know which pianists suggested which ... I'd love to see a facsimile of the ms ... I saw one advertised, for about 200 euros!

Imho opinon to find an appropriate fingering is not the biggest difficulty when playing Iberia!
BTW Rubinstein took the liberty to "thin out" the score a little - claiming that this was exactly what the composer did himself (according to Rubinstein this was testified by his widow).

You may generally follow Debussy's advice in the forword to his Etudes and find all your fingerings yourself (and a pianist indeed should be able to do that). But in my experience it is quite fruitful to play through a couple of editions, edited and fingered by the best pianists of their time ---- and then to go back to an unfingered Urtext edition!!
Just one example for a really "new" and imho quite interesting fingering is that by Stefan Askenase for the left hand in Chopin's Nocturne op. 27 No. 1 (see the respective posting by a certain "alfor"). Askenase, one of the most sensitive and poetic Chopin players did proove by his recording that such a fingering does not disturb the perfect legato line.

I would be interested in the Gonzalez edition

klaviersonic wrote:I would be interested in the Gonzalez edition

Sorry, but I was a bit hasty to offer to scan that edition. It is definitely under copyright:
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Iberia/6003749
http://www.booklooker.de/app/detail.php ... id=3331297

MFEP:

Nikolay N. MEDTNER
Drei Dithyramben op. 10 Emmanuel RHENÉ-BATON
Dans le style Rococo
Trois pièces pour piano op. 23

Für Franz, mit besten Grüßen:

Hugo REINHOLD
Intermezzo scherzoso op. 14Short piece of good quality. Recommended!

MFEP:
Nikolay N. MEDTNER
Quatre Morceaux op. 4

alfor wrote:

klaviersonic wrote:I would be interested in the Gonzalez edition

Sorry, but I was a bit hasty to offer to scan that edition. It is definitely under copyright:
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Iberia/6003749
http://www.booklooker.de/app/detail.php ... id=3331297

I bought it. It's only about 28 euros for the whole book and the fingerings aren't all that amazing, honestly!

isokani wrote:I bought it. It's only about 28 euros for the whole book and the fingerings aren't all that amazing, honestly!

...and some more cons: printing hard to read (for example all stems of grace notes are simply missing!); distribution between the hands is - of course - debatable! More pro than con, imho: Fingering is in many places really good and helpful.
--- Does anybody know whether the Morhange-Motchane edition is fingered??

If you want to have a good (unfingered) Urtext edition go for Henle!

alfor wrote:MFEP:

Nikolay N. MEDTNER
Drei Dithyramben op. 10

Medtner 3 Dithyramben op.10.pdf

Emmanuel RHENÉ-BATON
Dans le style Rococo
Trois pièces pour piano op. 23

Rhené-Baton Dans le style rococo op.23.pdf

Thanks for these great works Alfor. I love Medtner's second Dithyramb especially! A gorgeous work.