Pianophilia

Timtin wrote:

Jean-Séb wrote:I thought first that Gustav Langer and Gustav Lange were the same, but it does not seem so.

JS are you sure? It appears that both Lange and Langer lived from 1830 to 1889.
Could it be that two different works by one man (with two alternative spellings
to his name) were published under the same opus number?

Alternate spellings and even alternate names were frequent especially in the field of salon music. The catalogue of Gustav Lange works does not seem complete on this page :
http://www.klassika.info/Komponisten/La ... pus_1.html
but the opus 20 mentioned is different from Grossmutterchen by Gustav Langer, who also wrote under op.22 Grossväterchen :
http://books.google.fr/books?id=1QNXAAA ... &q&f=false
But it is true that the attribution of opus numbers could differ according to the publishing houses.
So I do not know really.
There is a discussion on this link that seems to show that they are indeed different persons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCBC9KfDP0

Thank you for your posting.

Just to confuse matters even further, Mississippi State University has
two composers under the name Gustav Lange alone, the latter's dates
being 1861-1939. 'In Rank and File Op249 No1', their 10MB piano piece
by this later composer, is remarkably similar in style to much of the piano
music by the earlier incarnation of Gustav Lange!
I don't really know, but at present my gut instinct is that Gustav Lange
(earlier), Gustav Lange (later), Gustave Lange, and Gustav Langer were
all the same person, despite some inconclusive evidence to the contrary.

http://digital.library.msstate.edu/coll ... eetMusic#l

Dear Pianophiliacs,

to finish the discussion about Lange and/or Langer, I will provide you with a copy of the new editions catalogue "Edition Schott" out of the year 1925 (from "Meyer's Neuer Führer durch den Klavierunterricht"). In this catalogue you will see DIFFERENT notes for Lange, G. and Langer.

For Gustav (or Gustave, the older spelling form for "Gustav" in German language) Langer, some entries of his worklist:
...
op.5 Drei Lieder "Der arme Peter" (Poor Peter)
op.6 Fünf Lieder (Five Songs)
op.20 Großmütterchen (Grand-Ma)
op.22 Großväterchen (Grand-Pa)
...

There seems to be a lot of mistakes in the libraries all over the world...

I will have a look for biographical details further on,

Best regards,
Georgio

Timtin wrote:Just to confuse matters even further, Mississippi State University has
two composers under the name Gustav Lange alone, the latter's dates
being 1861-1939. 'In Rank and File Op249 No1', their 10MB piano piece
by this later composer, is remarkably similar in style to much of the piano
music by the earlier incarnation of Gustav Lange!

There is no doubt about that, and the piece is listed with the famous Flower Song at the end of the score. So the second Gustav Lange dates are wrong and he is no different from the first one.

I don't really know, but at present my gut instinct is that Gustav Lange
(earlier), Gustav Lange (later), Gustave Lange, and Gustav Langer were
all the same person, despite some inconclusive evidence to the contrary.

I still think that Langer might be another one, and Georgio's evidence seems to point to that direction.

Jean-Séb wrote:

Timtin wrote:Just to confuse matters even further, Mississippi State University has
two composers under the name Gustav Lange alone, the latter's dates
being 1861-1939. 'In Rank and File Op249 No1', their 10MB piano piece
by this later composer, is remarkably similar in style to much of the piano
music by the earlier incarnation of Gustav Lange!

There is no doubt about that, and the piece is listed with the famous Flower Song at the end of the score. So the second Gustav Lange dates are wrong and he is no different from the first one.

I don't really know, but at present my gut instinct is that Gustav Lange
(earlier), Gustav Lange (later), Gustave Lange, and Gustav Langer were
all the same person, despite some inconclusive evidence to the contrary.

I still think that Langer might be another one, and Georgio's evidence seems to point to that direction.

For everybody who likes "Old Gems" by German salon composer, I will fill up the score list of Gustav Langer with his "Großväterchen" op.22. I scanned it out of the "Schott's Salon-Album Band III, Ed.No. 1503).

If anybody is interested in more scans of this kind of music, I attached the list of contents of the three volumes of this nice book. You're welcome

Thanks from Grand'ma, she was waiting for him.

Here's a piece by John Ashworth, which I quite like playing.
Information about this chap is somewhat thin on the ground.

Timtin wrote:Here's a piece by John Ashworth, which I quite like playing.
Information about this chap is somewhat thin on the ground.

Ashworth Dream-Legend.pdf

Timtin:

Very nice melody and excellent for pedagogic purposes - intermediate level in my opinion-

I could not get some info about Ashwort, let’s keep trying he worth it

Thanks,

ILU.

This is the only other example of Ashworth I've got here.
I'll produce quite a few more pieces of this type over the coming days,
by various other light-weight English composers active in the 1920s.

There's a couple of Ashworth pieces in the National Library of Australia. The note for one of them implies that they were used for cinemas to play during silent films. (EDIT: These are not available to download)

Another suggestion of the same here: At the Picture Palace - First Cycle - For Pianoforte (1915)