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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:16 pm
by fleubis
Klindworth & d'Albert's suggestion of an additional to the left hand melodic line borrowed from the right hand is something that comes naturally from just playing it, but these two editor's have made a point of notating it. In my case it only became obvious after decades of playing it. Too bad I learned from Urtext!
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:26 pm
by alfor
Para el Sr. fleubis:
Chopin editado por el Sr. Cortot.
alfor scan
Chopin Polonaise-Fantaisie ed. Cortot.pdf
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:10 pm
by fleubis
Alfred, thank you very much for the Cortot edition of the Polonaise-Fantasia. Cortot seems to have a lot to say--(if in fact they are his words instead of his students!) At any rate, the suggestions contained therein are very interesting and useful. I am taking the time to use Google translate for help on many of the interesting comments in this score. The Polonaise-Fantasia is one piece I know I will never, ever be completely satisfied with in terms of my own performance so I appreciate the additional infos I can glean from great editions, like Cortot's.
Much appreciated, dear Alfred.
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:07 pm
by alfor
Dear Sr. fleubis,
you are welcome!
P.S. Wie findest Du meinen neuesten „Horo-Witz“?
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:35 pm
by fleubis
Dear Alfred, of course I have ALL the Horowitz recordings, but I prefer Rubinstein and I have most of his recordings also. With Horowitz, I often get quite sidetracked by the incredible detail (and I think so did Horowitz) that the architecture gets lost, and I feel that is the case of his performance of the Polonaise-Fantasy. I enjoy the music so much more with Rubinstein at the keyboard--especially in Chopin. (Again I should state: IMHO.)
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:08 am
by phikfy
fleubis wrote:Dear Alfred, of course I have ALL the Horowitz recordings, but I prefer Rubinstein and I have most of his recordings also. With Horowitz, I often get quite sidetracked by the incredible detail (and I think so did Horowitz) that the architecture gets lost, and I feel that is the case of his performance of the Polonaise-Fantasy. I enjoy the music so much more with Rubinstein at the keyboard--especially in Chopin. (Again I should state: IMHO.)
Agree with Fleubis. But I would like to add Richter's recording as my favorite too, for his profundity.
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:16 pm
by alfor
fleubis wrote:Dear Alfred, of course I have ALL the Horowitz recordings, but I prefer Rubinstein and I have most of his recordings also. With Horowitz, I often get quite sidetracked by the incredible detail (and I think so did Horowitz) that the architecture gets lost, and I feel that is the case of his performance of the Polonaise-Fantasy. I enjoy the music so much more with Rubinstein at the keyboard--especially in Chopin. (Again I should state: IMHO.)
Dear fleubis, dear phikfy,
I generally agree!
P.S. I did NOT post the Polonaise-Fantasy!!
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:21 pm
by alfor
Two more polish dances:
alfor scan
Chopin Polonaises op.26 ed. Kreutzer.pdf
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:45 pm
by fleubis
Thank you, Alfred. I haven't played these two polonaises in years, and Kreutzer's pedaling indications give me something new to think about, even if the fingering is rather obvious. It is nice to play through these again after their absence on my piano for many years. This nice HIRES scan comes through beautifully on my monitor.
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:46 pm
by alfor
¡Gracias! ¿Estoy publicando exclusivamente para el Sr. fleubis?
Sind meine Bemühungen keinen Kreu(t)zer wert??!!
alfor scan:
Chopin Bolero, Tarantelle ed. Kreutzer.pdf