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Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:02 pm
by symbol60
sgambatiesque wrote:
symbol60 wrote:Does anyone have this Notturnino by Casella

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5_PPlBixFc

Thank you very much in advance !
The only Casella Notturnino I know of is the 4th of his Five Easy Pieces (Op.27 Pupazzetti) but they are four-hand pieces.

Unless I'm mistaken the Op.15 Barcarola listed on IMSLP is what you're looking for.
Thank you for your reply, but you are wrong. The Barcarola op.15 is a different piece
(you can listen it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0miVol0Y98).
Also the Notturnino from the Five Easy Pieces is another one.
The Notturnino I am looking for is not so known, as you can see :(

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:55 pm
by sgambatiesque
Try contacting the pianist. I do that quite often - most are quite helpful. She's a professor of music at Accademia Santa Cecilia - possibly their music archives have it: http://www.santacecilia.it/en/info_e_co ... index.html

Also a lead here: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre ... 20(19.html

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:06 pm
by symbol60
sgambatiesque wrote:Try contacting the pianist. I do that quite often - most are quite helpful. She's a professor of music at Accademia Santa Cecilia - possibly their music archives have it: http://www.santacecilia.it/en/info_e_co ... index.html

Also a lead here: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre ... 20(19.html
I don't know how to contact De Barberis.
I know already that S. Cecilia has not this music sheet. It seems theat the only library which has it is in U.K., Cambridge University.
Maybe someone living there could scan it ... it should be very nice !

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:12 pm
by sgambatiesque
symbol60 wrote: I don't know how to contact De Barberis.
I know already that S. Cecilia has not this music sheet. It seems theat the only library which has it is in U.K., Cambridge University.
The Cambridge Library web catalog says the piece is not borrowable so you'd have to find someone with access to photocopy it if possible. You could also try contacting the other person searching for it on that forum thread to see if they had any success.
http://search.lib.cam.ac.uk/?itemid=|cambrdgedb|1163584

Since De Barberis is a professor at S Cecilia, I'm sure they could pass the enquiry along. There are other avenues for finding pianists that aren't too difficult to surmise. If you can't get Cambridge library access then I think she's your best bet as she was a student of Casella and premiered some of his works.

S Cecilia or other music school libraries may have a copy of the source magazine Musica, and probably won't have the contents catalogued.

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:10 am
by symbol60
sgambatiesque wrote:
symbol60 wrote: I don't know how to contact De Barberis.
I know already that S. Cecilia has not this music sheet. It seems theat the only library which has it is in U.K., Cambridge University.
The Cambridge Library web catalog says the piece is not borrowable so you'd have to find someone with access to photocopy it if possible. You could also try contacting the other person searching for it on that forum thread to see if they had any success.
http://search.lib.cam.ac.uk/?itemid=|cambrdgedb|1163584

Since De Barberis is a professor at S Cecilia, I'm sure they could pass the enquiry along. There are other avenues for finding pianists that aren't too difficult to surmise. If you can't get Cambridge library access then I think she's your best bet as she was a student of Casella and premiered some of his works.

S Cecilia or other music school libraries may have a copy of the source magazine Musica, and probably won't have the contents catalogued.

De Barberis is quite old. She was in S. Cecilia in the past years, now she should be retired.
Anyway I could try as well.
As far as Musica is concerned, I contacted the magazine, but they said that it is not true: they have never published music sheets.
Thank you anyway for your suggestions !

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:24 am
by Timtin
Why not email the Pendlebury Music Library with your request?
If the Notturnino of 1909 is not in copyright, I'm certain that they
would be able to supply you with a copy of this highly elusive piece.

http://www.mus.cam.ac.uk/pendlebury/contact/

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:40 pm
by symbol60
Timtin wrote:Why not email the Pendlebury Music Library with your request?
If the Notturnino of 1909 is not in copyright, I'm certain that they
would be able to supply you with a copy of this highly elusive piece.

http://www.mus.cam.ac.uk/pendlebury/contact/

Thank you for your suggestion. I already sent an email to library@lib.cam.ac.uk,
but without success (no answer at all).
After your suggestion - I am sending another email to pendlebury@mus.cam.ac.uk
I will let you know if it works !

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:17 am
by Timtin
Good luck with your request Symbol60! If you don't have good luck for any reason,
please let me know and I will send them an email myself. (Sometimes I think that
great University libraries are wasted on their own students - many of whom are
too busy socialising to fully appreciate the treasures within their temporary grasp.)

Whilst on the subject of Casella (whose Mahler 7 for 4H is just amazing!), Sibley has
just posted a couple of his piano works, along with a pair of interesting Italian piano
works by two of his contemporaries:-

Publication Name: Trois pièces pour le piano
URL: https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... onNumber=1

Composer:Tommasini, Vincenzo (1878 - 1950)

Publication Name: Sonatina (in tre tempi) per pianoforte
URL: https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... onNumber=1

Composer:Casella, Alfredo (1883 - 1947)

Publication Name: Juventus nova; sei piccoli pezzi senza ottave per pianoforte
URL: https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... onNumber=1

Composer:Frugatta, Giuseppe

Publication Name: Deux contrastes : pour le piano
URL: https://urresearch.rochester.edu/instit ... onNumber=1

Composer:Casella, Alfredo (1883 - 1947)

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:50 am
by symbol60
Timtin wrote:Good luck with your request Symbol60! If you don't have good luck for any reason,
please let me know and I will send them an email myself. (Sometimes I think that
great University libraries are wasted on their own students - many of whom are
too busy socialising to fully appreciate the treasures within their temporary grasp.)

....
Thanks for your help. Actually they answered and say that they cannot copy the sheet because they copied from
the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.
They also explained to me that the magazine is not the italian "Musica" as I supposed,
but a french journal with the same name and that Casella piece was published in a supplement
"Album Musica" in 1909.
So I am making a request to the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.
I will let you know the end (if any!) of this kind of treasure hunt !

Re: The Music of Italy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:48 pm
by sgambatiesque
symbol60 wrote: They also explained to me that the magazine is not the italian "Musica" as I supposed,
but a french journal with the same name and that Casella piece was published in a supplement
"Album Musica" in 1909.
So I am making a request to the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.
I will let you know the end (if any!) of this kind of treasure hunt !
It's not a part of their existing online collection as far as I can tell. They do have an attractive score of the Casella Op.1 Pavane.

I've trawled through their periodicals for other Casella, but this is the only score.