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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:23 pm
by alfor
Rachmaninoff Corelli Var. op.42 alfor fingered

Deleted. Final (hopefully...) version - improved and definitely suited for an actual performance of the work -
will be posted in due course (hope I will have finished entering the new fingerings and scanning the score before June 2017).

alfor (aka "The FINGER")

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:20 pm
by fleubis
Thank you, Alfred, for this well considered fingering of the Corelli. Wish I'd had this during my performing days! I can see where a lot of work went into this.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:17 pm
by alfor
My fingering of Var. IX bars 15 & 16 (r.h.) is too „special“ for you??

Let's imagine how the late Busoni would have fingered the right hand (he told me ;) ...):

bars 2, 4 & 17:
1-2-3-4-5-3-5-4-3-2-1

bar 5:
1-2-3-4-5-2-5-4-3-2-1

etc.


...and he would have „voiced“ the top notes of the 2nd and 3rd l.h. chords
much better than today's performers!!

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:26 pm
by fleubis
Well, Alfred, Var. IX bars 15 & 16 - your fingering seems better than anything else---just wish R. had written this variation in a different key, as it certainly is awkward. Your suggested Busoni-like fingering for Bars 2,4 & 17 are a little to stretchy for my small hands, so I will happily settle for what you finally decided upon. (Maybe I should spend some more time on those exercises in "Ma Technique QUottdienne" to enhance my ability to utilize Busoni-like fingering.)

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:02 pm
by alfor
Var. X, bar 2:

If you feel unsecure when playing the two quick repeated notes with a single finger,
you can of course use the 1st and 2nd finger.

And then you can decide whether you prefer the succession 1-2
(with an outward movement of hand and arm, i.e. towards your body)
or the succession 2-1 (with an inward movement, i.e. towards the lid).

If your hand is big (stretchy) enough you can of course play the 3rd chord, l. h.,
bars 5 & 11 with 5-3-2 (from bottom to top).

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:01 pm
by fleubis
Alfred, the only change I would make to what you have written in the score in Var X is to change fingers on those repeated notes as you suggest, the rest as you have notated works fine even for my small hands.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:16 pm
by alfor
Intermezzo, page 15:

Cadenza:


You can take the first note of the 3rd group with the left hand (2nd finger).
Advantage: Easier to bring out the accent.
Disadvantage: The regular flow of the music might be slightly interrupted.

Third line, 3rd group: These six notes may be transferred to the left hand;
not essential and only recommended if you have problems to go smoothly
from the thumb (E flat) to the 5th finger (F)

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:12 am
by fleubis
Alfred, for the cadenza, I like how you have indicated it in the score the best.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:55 am
by ilu
Does anyone have piano scores by Ivan Ivanovich Dzerzhinsky, except "Three Pieces for Children"?

Thanks in advance,

ILU.
México.

Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 5:06 pm
by relative
Biriukov Yuri (1908- 1976) - 24 preludes
Biriukov Jury Preludes 1-8.pdf
Biriukov Preludes 9-18.pdf
Biriukov Preludes 19-24.pdf
http://www.biografija.ru/biography/birj ... eevich.htm
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0% ... 0%B8%D1%87