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Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:22 am
by Timtin
Cipriani Potter appears to have done a number of very interesting 2H
piano arrangements of works by Mozart. These include several mature
Violin Sonatas including K481 in Eb, the 4H Piano Sonata in F K497,
the Clarinet Trio in Eb K498, the Piano Quartet in G minor K478, and
the Concert Rondo in A K386.

What a line up of great works! K386 is available at the IMSLP (and on
YouTube), but if anyone can lay their hands on any of the rest, that
would be great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_LDn1iBeUQ

Below is the complete list, obtained from the last page of the IMSLP file.

Potter's 2H arrangement of K386 means that all 27 Mozart Piano Concertos
and both of the Concert Rondos are available in this form - thanks mainly
to Reinecke, but also to Hummel and Ruthardt.
Mozart Potter Piano Arrangements List.pdf

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:29 am
by Jean-Séb
Yes, it would be nice to have the rest.

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:59 pm
by Mercuzio
Canzonetta (Violin concerto 2nd mov.) P. I. Tchaikovsky.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3_zlJNNNH0

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:07 pm
by alfor
Lovely! Thank you very much!!

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:20 pm
by fleubis
Seconded! Very nice to have such a great arrangement of this well-known tune.

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:43 pm
by kroket
Timtin wrote:Cipriani Potter appears to have done a number of very interesting 2H piano arrangements of works by Mozart. These include the Concert Rondo in A K386. K386 is available at the IMSLP (and on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_LDn1iBeUQ).
Thank you for this post, Timtin.
No other Potter transcriptions to be found. Most Google hits are about Harry Potter...
I just would like to mention that Barenreiter issued the Potter transcription in 2005, with a new completion based on Mozart's autograph.
In the foreword it is explained that Potter didn't have access to the last page of Mozart's autograph.
So the ending (starting from bar 2 on page 9 from the IMSLP copy) was made up by Potter himself.
The pianist on YouTube plays this Potter ending.
I'll attach (only) the preface of the Baerenreiter copy, which explains this interesting story.
Preface Baerenreiter KV 386 (Potter).pdf

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:29 am
by Timtin
Thank you Kroket for your research into this area. I believe that K386
has had a somewhat complicated history involving a missing page from
the autograph, which was eventually found in the BL a few years ago.

I attempted to scour the BL's website for those other Potter transcriptions
(if they exist), but I find navigating it somewhat akin to juggling with soot!

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:14 pm
by thalbergmad
When i was after the Potter Piano Concertos, I was struggling with the website. Ended up writing to the BL and they were most helpful, albeit I could have bought a nice banjo with what they charged me.

Worth firing off an E mail Tim old chap. I think they have a librarian who covers all the manuscript stuff.

Thal

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:16 am
by Timtin
Thank you Thal. It's been several years since I last tried to use the BL,
and my efforts to use it last week completely failed. So your idea of
emailing customer services at Boston Spa sounds like a good one.

Re: Piano Transcriptions for two hands

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:01 pm
by ahinton
thalbergmad wrote:When i was after the Potter Piano Concertos, I was struggling with the website. Ended up writing to the BL and they were most helpful, albeit I could have bought a nice banjo with what they charged me.
Yes, BL can indeed be most helpful, although I agree that their supply charges can be eye-wateringly excessive, especially when compared to those of certain other specialist archive collections (no names mentioned, of course!)...