The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread

[jre58591]

Does anyone have Stanford's first piano concerto? Also, Parry's piano concerto? Either (or both) would be great. Thanks!

[thalbergmad]

hi Folks,

Here is a piano concerto score which might not have hit the archives yet. Composed by Italian-American arranger/composer Domenico Savino (who frequently went by D. Onivas), here is his "Cuban Concerto" in 2P-4H version. (Thal - I hope this one is new to your collection!)

All Best,

Frank

Savino, Domenico - Cuban Concerto.pdf

Top marks sir, I say top marks.

This was on my shopping list as I have just started to collect concerti by American composers, but I think I would have struggled to get a copy and it would have been months before I got around to "S", so huge thanks.

Looks like great fun.

Luv

Thal

[Timtin]

Does anyone have Stanford's first piano concerto? Also, Parry's piano concerto? Either (or both) would be great. Thanks!

According to Jeremy Dibble, Stanford's Piano Concerto No.1 was never published,
much to the composer’s regret, though it is clear from the engraver’s marks in the
autograph manuscript that Boosey, his principal publisher at that time, had intended
to print the full score.

[thalbergmad]

Out of the 3 Piano Concertos by Stanford, only the 2nd was ever published. The first remained in bits and in manuscript until reconstructed by Prof Dibble and the 3rd was again in manuscript in 2 piano format before being orchestrated by Geoffery Bush.

A few years back Prof Dibble kindly allowed the CPS to have copies of his performance editions of the Stanford 1st Concerto and Parry Concerto which again was never published and survived only in manuscript. I think Champollion would have struggled with the Parry manuscript and I cannot even begin to imagine the skill in creating a performance edition.

I have no idea if he still provides copies, but I would expect he does as he is an extremely nice chap. He can be contacted at Durham University.

Thal

[Timtin]

As the so-called Brahms Piano Concerto No3 in D major Op77 is being played
at the Proms this year (Aug 11), and because I adore the SACD, it seemed a
good idea to mention it here.

Does anyone have any opinions about it? My own view is that the work will stand
the test of time, with its wonderfully Brahmsian padding out of the musical texture
(although hints of Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov can also be detected occasionally),
and its exciting first-movement cadenza. Dejan Lazic plays the work brilliantly, as
indeed he does the disc's fillers (Opp4 & 79).

I'm now hoping that Dejan (who, btw, is the spitting image of Harry Enfield imo),
will have Brahms' Piano Concerto No4 in A minor Op102 as his next project!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A17KP89kRco

[rob]

Tim, I think your use of the words 'padding out' gives the game away. The Violin Concerto in its original form has very little padding which makes it a particularly satisfying work. The Piano Concerto 3 by comparison... well, you said it: 'padding out', which makes it rather less satisfying. I quite enjoyed it though. It will never replace the original though which is a masterpiece in its form with only a dozen or so rivals.

[Timtin]

Further to the above discussion about Parry, apart from his Piano Concerto
in F sharp major from 1878-80, there also exist the beginnings of another
one from 1869 in the far more sensible key of G minor, which unfortunately
never got finished. The opening bars are printed in Jeremy Dibble's book.

[Timtin]

A further postscript to this discussion. Stanford also wrote an
early (complete) piano concerto in B flat major in 1873, but it
only got one performance. The score of this unpublished work
would be fascinating to see. (Perhaps a project for the CPS?!)
Both this concerto and Parry's unfinished effort were apparently
written in the Sterndale Bennett style.
Btw, anyone wondering why he chose Karel Drofnatski as his
pseudonym might like to try spelling his real surname backwards.

[lutoslawski]

Hyperion will be releasing the 54th on september with Cowen Concertstucke and Concerto by Somervell.
Looking foward to the cowen !

Tony

[lutoslawski]

Moscheles pc no.7 appeared on imslp.

Tony