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Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:39 am
by Jean-Séb
So, there must have been two editions dated 1989. At least one is complete, has 288 pages, and Rêverie du Pauvre is present on pages 152-153, as I have checked on my own copy. You must have bought only a selection.

Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:53 pm
by remy
Wait...Who?

In "The Count of Monte Cristo", Dumas describes Albert de Morcerf's piano (Robin Buss translation, Penguin Classics, p.439):

"In the place of honour was a piano, made of rosewood by Roller and Blanchet, and designed to fit into a modern drawing-room, yet containing a whole orchestra within its compact and sonorous frame and groaning under the weight of masterpieces by Beethoven, Weber, Mozart, Haydn, Grétry and Porpora."

Could anyone point out to me any masterpieces by Grétry and Porpora?

Or was Dumas playing a little joke on us?

It reminds me of Huck Finn, while staying at the Grangerford's, describing their piano with its built in drums controlled by extra pedals and saying, "...nothing was ever so lovely as to hear the young ladies sing "The Last Link is Broken" and play "The Battle of Prague" on it."

:D

jeremy

Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:23 pm
by WCosand
Nicola Porpora is very big on the internet these days, but the most interesting treatment of his life by far is the soap opera by George Sand called "Consuelo."
Sand makes Haydn his valet.

http://waltercosand.com/CosandScores/Co ... /Consuelo/

By the way, I, too, have a copy of Satie-"All piano works published by Salabert," copyright 1989, printed Feb 2003, which has no Reverie.
I am very confused now. Should I have posted the Porpora observation on the Italian thread instead?

Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:01 pm
by toyboy
Jean-Séb wrote:So, there must have been two editions dated 1989. At least one is complete, has 288 pages, and Rêverie du Pauvre is present on pages 152-153, as I have checked on my own copy. You must have bought only a selection.

Pray tell how do you tell the difference then? It doesnt say "selection" it says that it is the integrated publication of all pieces published by Salabert. (and before you ask me to contact Salabert, I've done it numerous times including about this question and NEVER EVER gotten a response.)

Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:36 pm
by Jean-Séb
remy wrote: Could anyone point out to me any masterpieces by Grétry and Porpora?
Or was Dumas playing a little joke on us?
"
No joke at all. Porpora and Gretry were famous at the time.
For Porpora, IMSLP has a number of scores available, but it is not my predilection area and I could not say which is a masterpiece.
Regarding Gretry,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Gr%C3%A9try
one of the preferred musicians of Marie-Antoinette, there is no doubt that Zemire et Azor, Richard Coeur-de-Lion and La Caravane du Caire, have been immensely well-known in the past. Actually, they are still staged sometimes. Zemire and Azor was given at Opera-Comique in Paris earlier this year, and I saw it last week-end by a amateurish baroque group (awful performance by the way). The story is that of Beauty and the Beast. Richard Coeur-de-Lion was perhaps the more widely known of his works.
Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixDvrGt ... re=related
Don't you already know this song. Yes, it is the one Tchaikowski took and inserted into the Queen of Spades, sung by the Countess:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ywol-f ... re=related
Jean-Séb

Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:55 pm
by Jean-Séb
toyboy wrote: Pray tell how do you tell the difference then? It doesnt say "selection" it says that it is the integrated publication of all pieces published by Salabert. (and before you ask me to contact Salabert, I've done it numerous times including about this question and NEVER EVER gotten a response.)
Dear Toyboy, I do not work at Salabert and cannot answer your questions. But if you look at this Salabert catalogue 2001,
http://tinyurl.com/27q3fu9
the 288-pages Satie Album was featured (with Rêverie) and the reference is EAS 18764/Q1 which corresponds to the one on my book Q1(E.A.S. 18764). What is yours and how many pages do you have? How many works do you miss by comparison with the complete list.
Maybe they have just removed from the book those works that recent critics have found not to be actually by Satie, which is the case for Rêverie (it is in fact an accompaniement for a song by Massenet, as I mentioned earlier).
Jean-Séb

Re: French Piano Music

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:37 pm
by toyboy
I'm not in front of my book, but as I said mine doesnt include the REverie, and against your list the 4 preludes either. Also possibly others (not sure about the "6 pices from the Period of ...".

And when I look at the list provided on sheetmusicplus.com of the Piano Album they are selling, it also is missing these pieces. So you may be right about the removal of the Reverie (altho it is still by him, n'est-ce pas?) but then that doesnt explain why the preludes are missing as well.

Very strange.

Georges Pfeiffer - Inquietude op.82 for piano (request)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:39 am
by ropemi
Does anybody has the piano score for "Inquietude op.82" by French composer Georges Pfeiffer(1835/1908)?
Or other piano works from him.

This is my contribuition from the ones I have:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Pfeiffer,_Georges_Jean

Théodore Salomé

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:51 pm
by Paddys
A few days ago I heard a charming organ piece entitled 'Cantilene' by Théodore Salomé. He also wrote many piano pieces. Does anyone have any of them?

Cheers,

P.

Re: Georges Pfeiffer - Inquietude op.82 for piano (request)

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:57 pm
by Caprotti
ropemi wrote:Does anybody has the piano score for "Inquietude op.82" by French composer Georges Pfeiffer(1835/1908)?
Or other piano works from him.

This is my contribuition from the ones I have:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Pfeiffer,_Georges_Jean
this is particularly interesting
Pfeiffer - 16 - Trovatore - Scene du Miserere LH (a Liszt) !.pdf