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soh choon wee wrote:Incidentally, I understand there is a Mocheles transcription of Beethoven's Fidelio, and REVISED BY BEETHOVEN himself........ anyone has more information about this???

and a scan???

It seems that the transcriptions were the first vocal score
and first piano solo version of Fidelio, published in 1814
by Artaria, with Beethoven's approval.
These links are quite interesting:-

http://www.mvdaily.com/articles/1999/04/ppmems.htm

http://www.organmatters.com/index.php?topic=237.0

Dear Soh Choon Wee,

Here are two other links which may also be of interest
regarding Beethoven, Moscheles, and Fidelio.

Firstly, Schindler's 'Life of Beethoven' edited by Moscheles:-

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39093/39 ... 9093-h.htm

Secondly, a card in Berlin State Library, which curiously
makes no mention of Moscheles.

http://musikipac.staatsbibliothek-berli ... 033&css=11

Timtim, I haven't read Schindler in over 30 years. Time for another read on my iPad.

Thanks for the "heads up"!

Thank you, everyone who provided the information for Mocheles transcription of Beethoven's Fidelio.

Happy Chinese New Year to all Chinese members of this list.

I definitely read about Moscheles producing the vocal score (and possibly transcription) for Fidelio in Moscheles : the life of the composer and his encounters with Beethoven, Liszt, Chopin, and Mendelssohn by Emil F. Smidak. This info comes directly from Moscheles' own diary. Moscheles also visited Beethoven on his deathbed (if I'm remembering correctly), and his account of that final encounter is very moving.

A wonderful clear scan from our friends from France...

But as it is edited by Hungarian Frenchman Isodor Philipp
it may be worthwhile to post it.

nms (alfor-edited)

Nottebohm's Zweite Beethoveniana was already on IMSLP,
but now the first book has also been uploaded.
http://imslp.org/wiki/Beethoveniana_%28 ... _Gustav%29

Celebrating my post No. 3000
(before being exterminated by the Chief Dalek alias fredbucket)
with a R-A-R-E edition of a well-known work.

For reasons unknown to me Schnabel did not finish his Beethoven edition for Ullstein.
The missing works were edited by Frederic Lamond.

So I am glad that Schnabel DID the Diabelli Variations.
For comparison I would recommend the following editions:

Henle (with more than decent fingering by Walter Lampe)
Peters (excellently fingered by Kuhlmann)
Bülow's*** edition which can be regarded as the model for Schnabel's edition
(previously posted on PP by alfor)

***He probably was the first pianist who systematically used a special fingering
in order to „enforce“ a certain execution (articulation, phrasing);
a method which Schnabel brought to perfection (with some exaggeration, though).
audio:
a 1937 recording of the Diabelli Variations
by a certain (sorry, but I forgot his name... )

Congratulations on your 3,000th post Alfor!
Your tireless explorations and hours of scanning put many of us to shame, and as for the music..!
All that remains for us to do, again, is thank you from the bottom of our hearts and the tips of our piano-playing fingers!