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Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:03 pm
by Scharwenka790
Caprotti wrote:As far as Wolff, the example you give is really very similar to Chopin's op.46 and I don't see why it should be different (in the sense of being part of a full concerto, even drafted). If we don't have any source stating that Wolff had in mind to compose an entire work in three movements, then a research of a manuscript score seems to be uneseful.
Of course, it could be that this 'Allegro de Concert' is based on an unrealized concerto just as the Chopin Op.46 is, but on the score it states
"Cet Allegro est tire du Premier Concerto" which seems to imply that a true concerto did exist.
Caprotti wrote:How did you proceed for the viola part of Hertz n.4 ? i see that there are some hints in the score for two pianos, where the second piano is given the main orchestral voices.
As we had all the other parts it was just a matter of giving the viola notes which filled out the harmonies appropriately, we didn't try to be creative with it and give the part a soloistic role.
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:37 pm
by Caprotti
You are right for the Wolff,I didn't see the specification you quote, because it's written using so small char. !!!
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:32 pm
by 4candles
thalbergmad wrote:4candles wrote:Could someone point me in the direction of (or indeed, post, if agreeable) the piano concerto in E-flat(?) by Léon Kreutzer and also the piano concerto, Op. 19(?) by Anton Simon
I have had the Anton Simon on back order with the University of London for some months. Regretfully they lost it when they had some sort of building work done, but they hope it will turn up somewhere. Some libraries cannot be trusted with their own holdings, so it is important we do it for them
The British Library also has the Simon, but it has many pages missing.
As for Kreutzer, I have no idea. There is Conradin Kreutzer in CPS archives, but not Leon.
Concertingly
Thal
I have just discovered that there is a 2-piano arrangment of the concerto, by the composer, at Sibley Library. Link here:
http://hdl.handle.net/1802/10478.
Hope this appeals to all interested and who have not already seen this concerto. Is the full score at the University of London/in the British Library?
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:43 pm
by thalbergmad
Fraid not, only 2 piano score.
Don't look like this one is going to be recorded.
Thal
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:09 pm
by mballan
Joaquin Turina (1882-1949).......his Op 66 Rapsodia sinfonica for piano and string orchestra (1933) arranged for two pianos.
Turina J - Op 66 Rapsodie Sinfonica.pdf
Malcolm
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:27 pm
by thalbergmad
I say sir, that is a find.
Thal
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:25 am
by fleubis
Thanks for the Turina, Malc. Again, yet another piece I had no idea existed.
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:08 pm
by mballan
Not exactly romantic and a bit in my grey area as composer died in 1985....although copyright is 1927 and I've confirmed no longer in print or available from OUP. Gordon Jacob's Piano Concerto No. 1 arranged two pianos [thank you Mr P].
Malcolm
Jacob G - Piano Concerto No. 1.pdf
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:26 am
by jre58591
mballan wrote:Not exactly romantic and a bit in my grey area as composer died in 1985....although copyright is 1927 and I've confirmed no longer in print or available from OUP. Gordon Jacob's Piano Concerto No. 1 arranged two pianos [thank you Mr P].
Malcolm
Thank you! Does anyone know if this has been recorded? I've seen more of Jacob's symphonic music popping up in places like Lyrita.
Re: The Romantic Piano Concerto Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:39 pm
by thalbergmad
mballan wrote:Not exactly romantic and a bit in my grey area as composer died in 1985....although copyright is 1927 and I've confirmed no longer in print or available from OUP. Gordon Jacob's Piano Concerto No. 1 arranged two pianos [thank you Mr P].
Malcolm
Nice work Mr M & Mr P. My original is bolloxed, so I am grateful for the scan.
Both Concerto 1 & 2 still available for hire via OUP by the way.
Luv
T Mad