The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven

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Re: The Music of Ludwig van Beethoven

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sgambatiesque wrote:More popular Beethoven: Athens, doubly ruined by Jean-Jacques Perrey in The Elephant Never Forgets.

And from my childhood my first exposure to Beethoven, the Seekers' Emerald City.
I think I can trump these for sheer awfulness, with the following:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suqzYJ0GrjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmXmAMs7SWg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T8fnYyH4pI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu7hscHkfPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09oNj9UYM7g
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Timtin wrote: I think I can trump these for sheer awfulness, with the following:-
Now, now, not everyone can be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4lPY2IDPpU , and even he can't match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pWR7C34O8s
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Liberace - the pianist everyone loved to hate. But behind that camp facade
lay quite a decent pianist imo. As regards the jazz version of Op13, I'm all
in favour of it. Thanks for the links!
Check this out for cuteness:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDWfMAvxjio
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Certainly, please scan and post (at least a few sonatas) of Beethoven-liszt Bosworth edition.
Thank yo very much.
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That's my thought too - it would definitely be interesting to see at least a small sample of the LIszt edition. But I understand if the score is too fragile...

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soh choon wee wrote:Certainly, please scan and post (at least a few sonatas) of Beethoven-liszt Bosworth edition.
Thank yo very much.
I could post a Liszt edition, but you will be disappointed: no fingering, no pedal indications, nothing else of interest!
P.S. It is titled: "Erste vollständige Ausgabe unter Revision von Franz Liszt". (Published by Holle, Wolfenbüttel)

The Bosworth edition might well be revised by other editors!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sonatas-revised ... B0000CSXT8

See also:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/L-van-Beethoven- ... 0688151404 ("Neu bearbeitet von C. Kühner")
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2094092 ("Newly revised by H.B., 1916.")

So I personally don't think there is an edition with any helpful hints from the master!!
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I recommend Alan Walker's book "Reflections on Liszt" and especially the included essay "Liszt as Editor" which discusses the few things which Liszt did to the sonatas.
http://books.google.com/books?id=4URhKN ... &q&f=false
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Timtin wrote:Thank you FW190 for all the Beethoven files 'revised' (fingered?) by Dukas!
Those little pieces don't realy need a 'revision', fingerings etc. This sort of revision is more a sort of marketing trick.
The edition was published by Durand & Fils, Paris, in 1918. 1918 means in the time of WW1. Not the best time to sell copies of German Piano Music in France.
So the publisher decorated the edition with a well-reputated French name.
Beethoven.-.WoO-054.-.Bagatelle-'Lustig-traurig'-(pno-rev.-Dukas-1918).pdf
Beethoven.-.WoO-055.-.Prelude-in-f-(pno-rev.-Dukas-1918).pdf
Beethoven.-.WoO-056.-.Bagatelle-in-C-(pno-rev.-Dukas-1918).pdf
Beethoven.-.WoO-057.-.Andante-favori-in-F-(pno-rev.-Dukas-1918).pdf
Beethoven.-.WoO-059.-.Bagatelle-in-a-'Für-Elise'-(pno-rev.-Dukas-1918).pdf
Beethoven.-.WoO-060.-.Bagatelle-in-Bb-(pno-rev.-Dukas-1918).pdf
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Timtin wrote:It seems as though Beethoven's Pathetique and Moonlight Sonatas were
fertile ground for later adaptation. Here are some other examples:-

Songs based on music from the Pathetique:-
Louise Tucker - Midnight Blue
Billy Joel - This Night


http://www.music.us/education/L/List-of ... -music.htm
http://www.allegro.philharmonic.me.uk/
I remember reading (and a quick 'listen' seems to want to confirm this) that "Somewhere Out There" from the 1980's animated film "An American Talse" borrowes heavily from the 2nd movment of the 'Pathetique' as well....
not its original version but easier to 'hear' the connection on the solo piano ver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_c0TP7iQGc

PS
I do not know if the request is more appriate here, the French music thread, or the transcriptions thread.-note-If I am corrrected I can and will go back and edit this reply and move it to the appropriate board thread

The Beethoven Piano Concerto No. 3 (Op 27 No 3) solo transcription by Alkan. Has anyone been successful in tracking down or creating a better scan of this (I thought of this when seeing the wonderful work on some of the sonatas earlier with a successful effort to provide cleaner versions)?
The one available on IMLSP is horrible (I hate to say this about a piece of music, but only a reflection of the image quality).
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Scriabinoff wrote:...The Beethoven Piano Concerto No. 3 (Op 27 No 3) solo transcription by Alkan. Has anyone been successful in tracking down or creating a better scan of this...The one available on IMLSP is horrible (I hate to say this about a piece of music, but only a reflection of the image quality).
I posted a clean version of the cadenza. The whole thing is not easy to locate.
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