Music from the British Isles

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From one Englishman whom Italians might claim was theirs, to one who was definitely home grown.
N.B. There are two obvious errors on printed page no.6, as follows:-
Bar 5 has a missing C natural sign in the right hand on the 4th. beat.
Bars 7 & 8 should have a treble clef in the left hand.
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Norman Houston O'Neill (1875 – 1934) was an Irish and British composer, a conductor who specialized largely in works for the theatre. He studied in London with Arthur Somervell and with Iwan Knorr at the Hoch Conservatory in Frankfurt from 1893-1897. His studies there were facilitated by his lover, Eric Stenbock. He belonged to the Frankfurt Group, a circle of composers who studied at the Hoch Conservatory in the late 1890s.

O'Neill was associated with the Haymarket Theatre. His works include over fifty sets of incidental music for plays, including many by Shakespeare (Hamlet, King Lear, Julius Caesar, Macbeth, The Merchant of Venice, Henry V and Measure for Measure), J. M. Barrie (A Kiss for Cinderella), and Maurice Maeterlinck (The Blue Bird). He received personal congratulations from Sir Edward Elgar on his music for the innovative central ballet sequence of the 1924 revue "The Punch Bowl", which ran for over a year with O'Neill's contribution being widely singled out for praise in the press.

O'Neill's works also include a number of symphonic suites and chamber music. He was treasurer of the Royal Philharmonic Society from 1918 until his death, and taught harmony and composition at the Royal Academy of Music.

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mballan wrote:Norman Houston O'Neill (1875 – 1934) was an Irish and British composer...
Excuse me, Malc ... but can you please explain how one can be Irish and British at the same time?

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fredbucket wrote:
mballan wrote:Norman Houston O'Neill (1875 – 1934) was an Irish and British composer...
Excuse me, Malc ... but can you please explain how one can be Irish and British at the same time?

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Don't ask me....quoted from Wikipedia ?????? I suppose you could be born in Northern Ireland and hence you could be termed both Irish and British ?

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mballan wrote:
fredbucket wrote:
mballan wrote:Norman Houston O'Neill (1875 – 1934) was an Irish and British composer...
Excuse me, Malc ... but can you please explain how one can be Irish and British at the same time?

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Don't ask me....quoted from Wikipedia ?????? I suppose you could be born in Northern Ireland and hence you could be termed both Irish and British ?

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He was born when Ireland was part of the British Empire, and worked in England. So 'British' would have been the most appropriate generic term. I think it's only in the Twentieth Century that Irish and British are seen in opposition. The same is not of course true for the word 'English' which has raised hackles everywhere for a very long time indeed. These days I guess the Irish for the most part prefer just to be Irish, the Scots Scottish, the Welsh Welsh. But most English people of my acquaintance prefer the term British to English, which is perhaps a shame.
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In fact, he was born in London - youngest son of the famous Dublin-born artist George Bernard O'Neill.
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http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/George-B ... tings.html
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rob wrote:But most English people of my acquaintance prefer the term British to English, which is perhaps a shame.
It is a shame, but also very wise.

As soon as you admit to being English, you have to pay for prescriptions, tuition fees and old age care.

Best to be Welsh or Scottish.

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If asked, I describe myself as English, even though I have English, Welsh and Irish ancestors. But I was born in, and until now have lived in England, so I think English is quite a good description without going into unnecessary detail. British, to me, is a bit meaningless - it means that you're one (or a combination of) several things. I can't think of any Welsh, Scots -- or, for that matter, English -- person who would describe themselves as British. But obviously quite a few do!
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isokani wrote:If asked, I describe myself as English, even though I have English, Welsh and Irish ancestors. But I was born in, and until now have lived in England, so I think English is quite a good description without going into unnecessary detail. British, to me, is a bit meaningless - it means that you're one (or a combination of) several things. I can't think of any Welsh, Scots -- or, for that matter, English -- person who would describe themselves as British. But obviously quite a few do!
It is difficult I admit, but being of English and Scottish parents I usually call myself Anglo-Scot, almost never British. (but living in Holland anybody from the UK is English of course!!) Being born in Yorkshire takes precedent over even that description and I am very Yorkshire especially when visiting the more softie Southern Sassenach parts of the country. Originally Sassenach meant anybody who was not a Highlander so if you have any identity problems if you are not Scottish just call yourself a pure-bred Sassenach and all Scotland will rejoice.
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I am neither English, Scottish, Welsh nor Irish.

I am Scouse.

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