Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:51 pm
Ever heard of „Google“??!!
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But it isn't the same in
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc.as ... DS44351/66
Does anyone help?
Thank you
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Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:45 pm
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:31 pm
Sorry for posting the wrong mazurka.genosen wrote:Hello, does anybody have a score or facsimile of a b-flat minor mazurka catalogued KK. anh Ia/8? To my knowledge It's a very rare piece of music given that I cannot find any recordings anywhere, or even any info in the slightest.
I made a thread about this on another popular piano forum but was unable to find it. I did find however an almost equally rare score of a D Minor Mazurka KK. anh Ia/1 but I'm not sure if the score/transcription is in public domain.
Mazurka in D Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv0gRJ8I-Ig
The poster of this video found the facsimile in Krystyna Kobylkanska's book "Chopin in der Heimat. Andenken und Urkunden", so it's possible the mazurka in B-flat Minor, along with other rarities like the Prelude and Andantino animato KK Anh Ia/2-3 can be found in her books. There is information on these pieces in Krystyna Kobylkanska's "Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis" along with some incipits of the pieces in question. Unfortunately I don't have the time or money to investigate further, I would really appreciate some help!
BTW: It is Kobylanska!!!
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:52 pm
P.S. I just bought a used copy of the book in question - which is out-of-print.
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:15 pm
I'd just like to mention that I uploaded that score of the mazurka you posted myself http://docslide.us/documents/chopin-maz ... -br-4.html after rigorous searching if it wasn't already obvious, I found it in Maurice Hinson's 'At the Piano with Chopin' and snapped a screenshot of it, hence why it says page 35 in the top right hand corner so please no disrespect. I didn't post it here because I doubt it is in public domain.alfor wrote:Ever heard of „Google“??!!
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Also, here is an incipit of the b-flat minor mazurka I uploaded to youtube a while back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9CfBVdPk-Q
And the thread I made about the works:
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre ... ost2358933
I appreciate the help!
Books of interest:
Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis
Chopin in his own land; documents and souvenirs collected and edited by Krystyna Kobylanska
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:24 pm
No, I believe that the index number of the piece in your link is incorrect. It is actually br. 71, not br. 4. The score alfor posted is correct, this is confirmed by Jeffrey Kallberg who I spoke with sometime last year.arneros wrote:But it isn't the same in
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc.as ... DS44351/66
Does anyone help?
Thank you
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:40 am
I only found an incipit of the first bars of the manuscript. In the information from the Kobylanska catalogue it is listed as unpublished (and as a spurious work). I'll add the scans (sorry for the scanning quality, I haven't yet figured out how to get the documents not upside down...). Greetings, kroketgenosen wrote:Hello, does anybody have a score or facsimile of a b-flat minor mazurka catalogued KK. anh Ia/8? To my knowledge It's a very rare piece of music given that I cannot find any recordings anywhere, or even any info in the slightest.
I made a thread about this on another popular piano forum but was unable to find it. I did find however an almost equally rare score of a D Minor Mazurka KK. anh Ia/1 but I'm not sure if the score/transcription is in public domain.
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:58 pm
Fantastic!kroket wrote: I only found an incipit of the first bars of the manuscript. In the information from the Kobylanska catalogue it is listed as unpublished (and as a spurious work). I'll add the scans (sorry for the scanning quality, I haven't yet figured out how to get the documents not upside down...). Greetings, kroket
There are also incipts for KK. anh Ia/2-3 and an Ecossaise in E-flat Major KK. Ve/3 in the Kobylańska Katalog. Would you mind scanning those if you have the chance?
Also, are all three of these files from Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis by Krystyna Kobylańska"?
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:33 am
Hello all,
A bit of a rarity I'm searching for. Does anyone have any information on the alternate "first version" of the Waltz in A flat, Op. 34, No. 1 that Eugene Mursky plays as a the final track on this album. (link below) There is a suggestion in the notes that it might actually be an edition by Heinrich Neuhaus, in collaboration with Jakob Milstein but it's all very unclear. I'd love to see the score, or at least know where it can be found.
Cheers in advance!
http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Waltzes-Fr ... B000KRNHUS
A bit of a rarity I'm searching for. Does anyone have any information on the alternate "first version" of the Waltz in A flat, Op. 34, No. 1 that Eugene Mursky plays as a the final track on this album. (link below) There is a suggestion in the notes that it might actually be an edition by Heinrich Neuhaus, in collaboration with Jakob Milstein but it's all very unclear. I'd love to see the score, or at least know where it can be found.
Cheers in advance!
http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Waltzes-Fr ... B000KRNHUS
Re: Frédéric Chopin
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:27 pm
No, the scan which I titled Catalogue are 2 pages from the 'official' catalogue, of which you rightly mention the German name (the catalogue is written in German). It was published by Henle in 1979. It has, whenever possible, the incipits from the first bars of the right hand part. The other 2 pages I scanned are from the original Katalog of Kobylanska, which was published in 1977 in Polish "Rekopisy utworow Chopina". That Polish catalogue consists of 2 volumes. In the first volume the works are mentioned and described (in Polish, which I can't read), but without the incipits that later appeared in the German version. But the second volume of the Polish original has about 200 pages with photocopies of parts of manuscripts, some complete works and of some only the first bars (like the Mazurek in b).genosen wrote:There are also incipts for KK. anh Ia/1-2 and an Ecossaise in E-flat Major KK. Ve/3 in the Kobylańska Katalog. Would you mind scanning those if you have the chance?
Also, are all three of these files from Frédéric Chopin: Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis by Krystyna Kobylańska"?
Here are the pages about the other works you mentioned. Greetings, kroket