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Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:45 pm
by ilu
Hi:
I am looking for MOZART - PIANO CONCERTOS NO.1, 2, 3 and 4 (two pianos)

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

ILU.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:24 am
by bingo
ilu wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:45 pm Hi:
I am looking for MOZART - PIANO CONCERTOS NO.1, 2, 3 and 4 (two pianos)
Am I missing something or are the IMSLP versions deficient in some way? Are you seeking full score, two piano or solo piano versions

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:30 pm
by ilu
Hi bingo:

Thanks for your message, I am looking for the reduction to 2 pianos and, as I checked, IMSLP only has the full score versions.

Regards.

ILU.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:28 pm
by quercus
Hi Ilu, I have a couple of them. Here are 1, 3 & 4 in a Russian 2-piano reduction
Mozart K037 Piano Concerto #1 in F (two pianos).pdf
Mozart K040 Piano Concerto #3 in D (two pianos).pdf
Mozart K041 Piano Concerto #4 in G (two pianos).pdf

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:49 pm
by bingo
ilu wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:30 pm Hi bingo:

Thanks for your message, I am looking for the reduction to 2 pianos and, as I checked, IMSLP only has the full score versions.

Regards.

ILU.
PC #1 Two Pianos
https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_N ... g_Amadeus)
PC #3 Two Pianos
https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_N ... g_Amadeus)
PC #4 Two Pianos
https://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_N ... g_Amadeus)

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:54 pm
by ilu
bingo:

Thank you so much.

ILU.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:32 am
by bingo
Looking for Mozart's 6 Solo Variations on a Theme from Clarinet Quintet K. 581, KV Anh. 137

AFAICT not on IMSLP

Hal Leonard has an edition but I figure there must be a public domain version.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:07 pm
by quercus

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:32 am
by bingo
Thank you. Overlooked there due to incorrect Kochel number, using main list rather than the Appendix.

K137 is Divertimento in B-flat
K Anh.137 -> these variations on K.581


EDIT: This is a bit murkier than I realised.

This piece from Cosand is an arrangement of the Clarinet Quintet's 4th movement - an Allegretto Air and Variations.
The Hal Leonard publication appears to be this as well.

On IMSLP it is available in piano arrangements by "Lewis" von Beethoven, and others.
https://imslp.org/wiki/Clarinet_Quintet ... scriptions

So, not totally clear if there is a separate Variations work, or just some arrangements of the 4th movement. Any Mozart scholars in the house?

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:37 pm
by Timtin
bingo wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:32 am
Thank you. Overlooked there due to incorrect Kochel number, using main list rather than the Appendix.

K137 is Divertimento in B-flat
K Anh.137 -> these variations on K.581


EDIT: This is a bit murkier than I realised.

This piece from Cosand is an arrangement of the Clarinet Quintet's 4th movement - an Allegretto Air and Variations.
The Hal Leonard publication appears to be this as well.

On IMSLP it is available in piano arrangements by "Lewis" von Beethoven, and others.
https://imslp.org/wiki/Clarinet_Quintet ... scriptions

So, not totally clear if there is a separate Variations work, or just some arrangements of the 4th movement. Any Mozart scholars in the house?
According to Aubyn Raymar, who wrote the preface to the Associated Board's score Mozart Miscellaneous Pieces for the Pianoforte, the Variations in A are an arrangement, with a few modifications for the pianoforte, of the Allegretto con Variazione, which form the Finale of the Clarinet Quintet, composed in September 1789.

According to the appendix of Köchel's Chronological Thematic Catalogue of the Works of W.A.Mozart, the work was first published by J.André in Offenbach in 1803 as Op.108.

It's interesting to compare this stand-alone work with Paul Wagner's piano arrangement of the entire Quintet. There are significant differences, for example, in the A minor Variation (Var.3), Wagner has the left hand playing the clarinet part in the first 4 bars, whereas the other version has it played right-handed. The latter then continues with 12 bars of semi-quaver octave leaps in the right hand with fairly boring chords in the left hand, whereas the former does not suddenly thrust us into all this stuff but continues with material entirely consistent with the music of the first 4 bars. Imo, the Wagner version of the music is far closer to Mozart's original Quintet than the stand-alone work and is no less pianistic, and is therefore decidedly superior - even if the other one was arranged by that guy Lewis Whatshisname!