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Re: Salon music

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:23 am
by musiclife217
there are some notes on this piece on IMSLP which has a simplified version...

I hope that the commentator may see this original version.

Eilenburg, Richard - Op. 25 - Salonstuck - Everybody's Darling (Schmeichelkatzchen)
Eilenburg, Richard-Op. 25-Salonstuck-Everybody's Darling (Schmeichelkatzchen).pdf

Re: Salon music

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:59 am
by Jean-Séb
Thank you, Musiclife for these two additions.

Re: Salon music

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:06 pm
by genosen
Hello all,

I have recently become interesting in the music of the composer Kessler, Joseph Christoph, but I am having unfortunatly little luck finding sheet music online. He had a large influence on Chopin when he was in his teens and having played some of the music found on IMSLP his mark is very apparent. For that reason alone I think his music is valuable.

On IMSLP you can only find the following scores:
Etudes Op. 51
Etudes Op. 20
Etudes Op. 100
Nocturnes Op. 48
Penees Fugitives Op. 72
Rondo Grazioso Op. 52
Scherzo Op. 45

One notable mention not listed here is his preludes Op. 31 which were dedicated to Chopin and likely had a big influence on some early Chopin works. You can find the complete set of preludes performed here: https://enc.piano.or.jp/musics/17009 but no sheet music apart from Op. 31 No. 2 exists online. Listening through these pieces I have found some interesting connections to some of Chopin's earlier pieces, namely his E Minor Waltz.
I tried to order this one through Sheet Music plus but after ordering they updated the status of the Sheet Music to not available and refunded me. Since then I have been working diligently to transcribe this set by ear and although my scores are very accurate I would still prefer to have the original sheets.

There also exists a record of a Kessler etude in C Major which has a striking resembelance to Chopins Op. 10 C Major etude.


You can find a list of pieces from Kessler on this website. https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/BLK%C3%9 ... _Christoph
Searching the site for Kessler its been a while since anybody has mentioned him, and I believe most of the scores for him on IMSLP were provided by the users of pianophilia. I was hoping somebody may have access to scores not listed on IMSLP and would be willing to provide them.

Any help at all would be appreciated!

Re: Salon music

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:54 am
by bingo
genosen wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:06 pm Hello all,

I have recently become interesting in the music of the composer Kessler, Joseph Christoph, but I am having unfortunatly little luck finding sheet music online. He had a large influence on Chopin when he was in his teens and having played some of the music found on IMSLP his mark is very apparent. For that reason alone I think his music is valuable.

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One notable mention not listed here is his preludes Op. 31
This is better posted on the German composer thread.

WorldCat shows many copies of Op.31 held at libraries around the world
https://www.worldcat.org/title/24-prelu ... c/31734147

The Polish National Library records it in its online archive, but says it is copyright-protected due to it being a recent engraving (Kraków : Polskie Wydaw. Muzyczne, 1994) (You could enquire from them directly: https://pwm.com.pl/pl/sklep/publikacja/ ... garnia.htm)

Other works are available from the Polish National Library:
https://polona.pl/search/?filters=creat ... 2,public:0

Re: Salon music

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:53 am
by genosen
bingo wrote: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:54 am This is better posted on the German composer thread.

WorldCat shows many copies of Op.31 held at libraries around the world
https://www.worldcat.org/title/24-prelu ... c/31734147

The Polish National Library records it in its online archive, but says it is copyright-protected due to it being a recent engraving (Kraków : Polskie Wydaw. Muzyczne, 1994) (You could enquire from them directly: https://pwm.com.pl/pl/sklep/publikacja/ ... garnia.htm)

Other works are available from the Polish National Library:
https://polona.pl/search/?filters=creat ... 2,public:0
Thanks for the information! Will repost to the German composer thread!

Re: Salon music

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:26 am
by bingo
Henri TRESTER (fl 1850-1880)

Unknown nationality, with publishers in St. Petersburg, Warsaw and beyond.
I found some of these in the Polish national library, with cover listings and WorldCat helping with other items.
(* items held by Polish national library but not available for download)

Note the doubled-up Op.14

Known works:
Op.4 Polonaise listen: https://musescore.com/user/4151271/scores/7912007
TRESTER Op.4 Polonaise.pdf
Op.14 Nocturne in C♯ minor https://www.starinnye-noty.ru/%D0%BD%D0 ... %B5%D1%80/ (played by Gamma on his YT channel)
TRESTER Op.14 Nocturne in C sharp minor.pdf
Op.14 Romance Polonaise listen: https://musescore.com/user/4151271/scores/7915991
TRESTER Op.14 Romance polonaise (bw).pdf

Op.15 Le reproche, morceau de salon
Op.16 Pourquoi si triste

Op.18 Grand Galop militaire. (*)
Op.19 Le regret : Chanson sans paroles (*)
Op.20 Mignonne Polka

Op.25 La Gondole

Op.27 Souvenir d'un songe

Op.29 Souvenir de Pavlovsk
Op.30 Une Nuit de Printemps (Chant du Rossignol) Reverie. listen: https://musescore.com/user/4151271/scores/7916813
TRESTER Op.30 Une Nuit de Printemps (Chant du Rossignol) Reverie.pdf
Op.31 Souvenir de Vilna. Mazurka de salon.
Op.32 Elégie (Fm.)
Op.33 Valse brillante (A flat).
Op.34 Depart pour l'armee. Impromptu militaire

WoO Un ange de plus. Elegie.
WoO Mazur listen: https://musescore.com/user/4151271/scores/7916141
TRESTER Mazur.pdf

Re: Salon music

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:57 am
by bingo
Karl TIEDEMANN or TIDEMAN
(Unknown nationality, published in St Peterburg)

Op.40 La Belle Capricieuse (Pompadour dance) Listen: https://musescore.com/user/4151271/scores/7962584
download from: https://www.starinnye-noty.ru/%D1%82%D0 ... %BA%D0%BE/

Op.4 Kisynka waltz. Listen: https://musescore.com/user/4151271/scores/7962875
TIEDEMANN Op.4 Kisynka (Кисынька) waltz (bw).pdf
The idiom "kitty" = "young woman" seems to have been used in the early 20th century. Compare Prisovsky: "Kisonka, Girl with a Lorgnette".

The final page has a catalog listing showing Tiedemann works going up to at least Op.80

Re: Salon music

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:12 am
by Lemongrab
Went looking for the piece "L' Etincelle (Caprice)" by Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély this evening. I only found it in the context of a large compilation - & thereafter drafted a new pdf of just the piece.

Here it is
Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély - L'Étincelle, Op.109.pdf

Re: Salon music

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:05 am
by bingo
Some more TIEDEMANN / TIDEMAN :

nms but I have cleaned them all up
TIEDEMANN Op.38 Rose of Seville (Polona.pl).pdf
TIEDEMANN Op.44 Krakoviak (Краковякѣ).pdf
salon dance
TIEDEMANN Op.65 Hiawatha (orig).pdf
more of a novelty/screamer

listen: https://musescore.com/artist/karl_tiedemann-360608

Re: Salon music

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:24 am
by bingo
musiclife217 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:17 pm [

I am also looking for a few more from this set - any contributions would be appreciated!

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Labadie, Henri [Hyppolite] - WoO - Valse - Mia Cara
More Hyppolite Ivanovich LABADIE to follow. Listen here: https://musescore.com/artist/hippolyte_labadie-13464
NMS but I have cleaned them up a lot
LABADIE Mia Cara, waltz (bw).pdf
LABADIE Op.2 Reproche (Упрëк).pdf
LABADIE Op.106 Chaconne.pdf