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Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:45 pm
by alfor
Although I generally appreciate well-fingered editions,
I nevertheless am occasionally missing unfingered editions, where I can
put down my own fingerings without crossing-out or overwriting
the editors.
It is only recently, that a couple of unfingered Urtext
editions of Chopin have been published (Peters).

I tried to save some money and ordered the cheap
Koenemann edition of the Sonatas, but I still cannot stand
their horrible typography - not to mention an awkward spacing.

I do not know of any other unfingered Edition of the Chopin Sonatas
(apart from Lea Pocket Scores).

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:33 am
by fahl5
alfor wrote:Danke, lieber fahl5!
Any whishes or suggestions, what I should do next ?
I am quite sure If anyone, than someone like you will have at least "some" interesting Ideas for me.... ;)

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:44 pm
by alfor
Mr. Soh choon wee asked for some alternative fingering for the beginning
of Schumann's Papillons.

Here it is - 2), 3) - while 1) represents the standard fingering
Papillons.pdf.pdf

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:03 am
by soh choon wee
Thanks, Alfor. Good solutions.

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:13 am
by fleubis
Interesting solutions, Alfred!

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:38 am
by Jim Faston
alfor wrote:Ignaz FRIEDMAN
Vignettes op. 76
8 petits morceaux pour le piano
Friedman Vignettes op.76.pdf
Moriz ROSENTHAL (eminent piano virtuoso although IMHO his pianistic musicianship
may be a bit doubtful, taken his late recording of Chopin's Sonata op. 58 as reference.
Composed much less than Friedman; some of his compositions display a pianistic and harmonic
refinement reminiscent of Godowsky, others are nice salon trifles.)
Zehn Charakterstücke
Refined Miniatures with an extended virtuoso finale.
Rosenthal 10 Charakterstücke.pdf
Anyone with information on this particular version of Rosenthal's Mazurka from the above collection uploaded by Alfor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4CnCN5J3g
Thanks.

---EDIT---
I answered my own question here thanks to Malcolm's encyclopedia:

Variations on an Original Theme (Furstner c. 1903)
[Note: these were republished in 1928 by Fürstner as “Zehn Charackerstucke” with the following titles:
Theme, Arabeske, Scherzando ma deciso, Aria, Ballabile, Nocturne, A la Tarantella, Tempo di
Mazurka, Petite Etude, Feuillet d’album, Finale con Intermezzo]

The Variations (available on IMSLP) are the source but contain a number of differences. Good to have both versions available.

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:39 am
by musiclife217
I saw that Alfor posted scores by Frommel before in the Rarities thread, so I ask, has anyone seen scores for Frommel's Romance and Serenade? I believe that they were released as a pair...

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:18 am
by Jean-Séb
Never seen them, unfortunately.

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:41 pm
by musiclife217
Jean-Séb wrote:Never seen them, unfortunately.
okay, I can try to obtain them. Thanks!

Re: Alfor's Rarities

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:45 am
by musiclife217
Jean-Séb wrote:Never seen them, unfortunately.
Apparently, there are two Frommel's - mine is Hermann Frommel (Alfor's was Gerhard).

Anyway, these are quite nice pieces. Feel free to move, where appropriate, as necessary. The first two have been recorded by the dedicatee, Alexander Raab. The last has been recorded in Salon orchestra version on the very pleasant Silent-Cinema-themed disc, "Love, Betrayal, and Redemption."


Frommel, Hermann - Sketches, Three

No. 01 - Romance
No. 02 - Serenade
No. 03 - A Curious Story

Frommel, Hermann-Sketch No. 01-Romance.pdf
Frommel, Hermann-Sketch No. 02-Serenade.pdf
Frommel, Hermann-Sketch No. 03-A Curious Story.pdf