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Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:17 am
by timgill
A number of early works by Kapustin. These are described either as "mislaid", when the composer knows that they're still somewhere but doesn't know where, or "missing", where he's pretty certain they've been lost or destroyed. But boy, would I like to get my hands on the ms. for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYiD7VGBXY.

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:59 pm
by Op. XXXIX
Liszt had planned to transcribe the Beethoven quartets, probably on request from his publisher. I had always thought he passed away before beginning the project, yet I was recently told that Liszt had indeed made several attempts, but was reportedly unhappy with the results, so he tossed the project aside.

Wonder what we missed.

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:52 pm
by Timtin
Everything from yesterday has gone, including my little quiz.
As for holy grails, may I suggest Schubert's Grand Duo D812,
arranged for piano solo by Dietrich - in effect another Schubert
solo piano sonata to enjoy, if someone could only find it.

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:05 pm
by Op. XXXIX
Oh okay, thanks. (I didn't think I had done anything wrong.)

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:37 am
by fredbucket
Op. XXXIX wrote:Oh okay, thanks. (I didn't think I had done anything wrong.)
You didn't. Please read the News section and keep up to date with what is happening to the system overall.

Regards
Fred

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:46 pm
by Timtin
Charles Villiers Stanford's Piano Sonata in Db major Op20. Locate that and become famous!
Here's an interesting link to an article which discusses it, but with completely the wrong
key mentioned in the title. Click on the other links on this page to access numerous other
pages about British music which the world forgot or just ignored.
http://landofllostcontent.blogspot.com/ ... onata.html

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:15 pm
by caostotale
For me, some of Alexandre Tansman works fall into this category, including a first piano trio and a first string quartet (later replaced in his cycle by the 'Triptyche' quartet). Agreed with isokani about early Soviet works a la Mosolov's 3rd sonata. I'm particularly interested in anything that Protopopov composed after those initial few opus numbers.

What generally alarms me more are scores that become unintentional 'holy grails', either because of poor distribution, limited publication, or stubborn publishers/librarians who let them turn to dust on shelves rather than vouchsafing their posterity. Too many composers of the past hundred years are victim to this fate and time is making it worse when very few younger musicians are willing to put down their iPad long enough to actually check out their school's library.

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:25 am
by kreisleriana
I read from somewhere (I forgot which source it was) that a private collector in Paris has Chopin's unpublished Waltz in B flat major. Can someone verify this?

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:11 am
by Jim Faston
kreisleriana wrote:I read from somewhere (I forgot which source it was) that a private collector in Paris has Chopin's unpublished Waltz in B flat major. Can someone verify this?
There is some information here regarding that waltz:

http://pianosociety.com/cms/index.php?section=633

Re: Piano Holy Grails

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:25 pm
by Alkanator
It would be really good to be able to find many of Algernon Ashton's lost works, including his alleged 24 piano sonatas in all the major and minor keys.