Pianophilia

Dani_area_51 wrote:I was interested in any piece by Wilhelm Weismann...Like the 24 preludes or the piano sonata! Anyone?

...was??...or are you still??

I can post the piano sonata.

Something a little different from me, although a Russian link........Daniel Steibelt (1765-1823). I checked IMSLP and this site and could not find any posting of these works [of course these may have been shared in an earlier incarnation of Pianophilia]. Wikipedia link for biographical details and works list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Steibelt

Malcolm

Op 4 Sonata in Eb major [quite a substantive work compared to many of Steibelt's other sonatas] Op 68 Sonata in A major Op 86 No. 2 Sonata in Bb major Rondo in Eb major

alfor wrote:

Dani_area_51 wrote:I was interested in any piece by Wilhelm Weismann...Like the 24 preludes or the piano sonata! Anyone?

...was??...or are you still??

I can post the piano sonata.

I still am. I said "was", because I've been looking for it for some time .
Anyway, I would be grateful if you could kindly share it. Also, there's a fine recording of it in youtube.

mballan wrote:Something a little different from me, although a Russian link........Daniel Steibelt (1765-1823). I checked IMSLP and this site and could not find any posting of these works [of course these may have been shared in an earlier incarnation of Pianophilia]. Wikipedia link for biographical details and works list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Steibelt

Malcolm

Thanks a lot for this, Malcolm. But I think it's interesting, that while I always associate the name of Steibelt with a reasonably well known composer, I can't find anywhere recordings of his pieces. Even amateur recordings are almost zero. Unless I searched poorly

Dani_area_51 wrote:Thanks a lot for this, Malcolm. But I think it's interesting, that while I always associate the name of Steibelt with a reasonably well known composer

Who????

I think, whilst it is appreciated he had a very high (and in most people's views exaggerated) opinion of his own ability, he wasn't the musical charlatan that many have painted him to be. I have a typeset version of the 1st movement of the op.4, but the others are new to me. Thanks, Malc for the uploads. Any others you come across are grist for the scanner IMNSHO...

Regards
Fred

Steibelt is well known from pianists because a lot of collections for beginners used to have many pieces by him taken from his sonatinas, rondos, etc. But the more elaborate pieces were rare, although there is one I had and that I enjoyed to play, a rondo called l'Orage (the Storm), taken from one of his piano concertos. This piece was famous enough to induce Alkan to propose variations on the same theme :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhVbVaJq ... re=related
Although his music seems to be usually of a pleasant and superficial nature, it is nice for the fingers. Here are two different prints of l'Orage.

Thanks a lot Jean...
Steibelt reminds me of his little wars with Beethoven playing the piano...According to Wikipedia: "He arrived in May 1800 at Vienna, where he challenged Beethoven to a trial of skill at the house of Count von Fries. Accounts of the contest record it was a disaster for Steibelt; Beethoven reportedly carried the day by improvising at length on a theme taken from the cello part of a new Steibelt piece—placed upside down on the music rack. Following this public humiliation Steibelt quit his tour."
About the pieces he composed I found it really strange that they were composed 77 sonatas for piano solo, and still, very few are available.

Grove doesn't pull any punches about poor Daniel, describing him as
'extraordinarily vain, arrogant, discourteous, recklessly extravagant and even dishonest'.

Various Steibelt files can be found here:-

http://en.scorser.com/S/Sheet+music/Pia ... /-1/1.html

Timtin wrote:Grove doesn't pull any punches about poor Daniel, describing him as
'extraordinarily vain, arrogant, discourteous, recklessly extravagant and even dishonest'.

Yes, but there is a bit of balance from Grove in the same paragraph: "As a musician, Steibelt has often been dismissed as a charlatan, to some degree unjustly. His powers as a pianist must have been considerable, even though he was reputed to have laboured under the disadvantage of a poor left-hand technique and to have been unable to produce singing tone in slow, sustained passages."

...and also: "Berlioz cited Roméo as the best of the five settings of the Shakespeare play in existence and was obviously influenced by Steibelt’s innovative orchestration, harmonies and individual writing for chorus, which included unison passages in a choral-recitative style and the use of the chorus as another ‘instrument’ in the orchestra."

Regards
Fred

Steibelt probably gets the worst press of any composer due to his supposed humiliation at the hands of Beethoven. I often play through some of his works and whilst he lacks the higher poetry and the ability to produce heart tearing emotion, much joy (for me) can be obtained.

The conductor who recorded some of the Wolfl Concertos showed some interest in Steibelt's Concertos, so hopefully we will get some recordings in time.

Concertingly.

Thal