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To fleubis, with compliments:
To parag, with compliments:

Alfor, thanks for the wonderful Scriabin postings. While I am not the biggest fan of his sonatas, I do love his etudes and particularly this Op.8 set. It is great to have fingerings for Op.8 No.10, the one in 3rds and Op.8 No.6, the one in 6ths-- the two thorniest etudes in the set.

Aha! A very interesting and playable fingering for my beloved Rachmaninoff "Oriental Sketch" that you have given me and very welcome. It is wonderful to encounter someone who understands the subtleties I seek in this piece and helping me overcome the limitations of small hands through good fingering.

Thank you Alfred... it is truly a treat to have this edition of the Op.8 Etudes.
Surprisingly the entire Philipp edition, except Band 1, is posted on IMSLP... I wonder why.
http://imslp.org/wiki/Ausgew%C3%A4hlte_Klavierwerke

Best regards,
Parag

fleubis wrote:

alfor wrote:As requested by parag:

Scriabin 2 Etudes ed. Baylor.pdf

Scriabin 3 Etudes ed. Hirschfeld.pdf

Genuine Alfor scans! So easy on the eyes.

Note-wise I am hard pressed to see any differences between the scores common to both sets, but the pedaling is markedly different and the Baylor version is less visually cramped--which my tired old eyes welcome. The autograph alternative of the original D# minor finale that Baylor presents is an interesting alternative to what we usually hear. It is hard to imagine such a bombastic piece having this somewhat quieter ending.

Thanks Alfor, I hadn't seen the quiet ending to the popular version of op8 no12 presented in that fashion--quite interesting. For those who haven't seen it before, here's a link to a Youtube video of the quite different second version of that etude. Score available on IMSLP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvYVy7ZyP4

Thanks Jim for posting the link to the 2nd version - what a study in contrast!

Alfor

BIG BIG thanks
for the fingerings of Scriabin op.8 etudes cycle,
which I personally rate the best ones after Chopin.

I agree with Fleubis that his Sonatas are perhaps not his best works.
His shorter works are generally better.

There is one charming little piece - op.17 no.6
which I personally like very much.

Can be found here:
http://www.piano.ru/scores/skriabin/skr-op.17.pdf

// Didi

fleubis wrote:Alfor, thanks for the wonderful Scriabin postings. While I am not the biggest fan of his sonatas, I do love his etudes and particularly this Op.8 set. It is great to have fingerings for Op.8 No.10, the one in 3rds and Op.8 No.6, the one in 6ths-- the two thorniest etudes in the set.

Aha! A very interesting and playable fingering for my beloved Rachmaninoff "Oriental Sketch" that you have given me and very welcome. It is wonderful to encounter someone who understands the subtleties I seek in this piece and helping me overcome the limitations of small hands through good fingering.

Thank you very much for every bit of feedback!!!

Nice to have the Phillip sonata editions again! I bought these ages ago when I was first learning the later sonatas (mid 80s) but despite being great editions, the binding was terrible and the books fell apart into lots of different bits ... some pages I think were irrevocably lost!

For my two cents, I'll take the smaller Scriabin collections--the etudes and the preludes. When the mystic chord entered Scriabin's vocabulary, I find his music to be more remote and less accessible (but intellectually challenging). In the US, audience enthusiasm seems to diminish as tonality becomes more abstract. Fortunately, a good many of us don't give a damn about what the audience thinks and try to broaden perceptions. Having good editions to work with makes things a lot easier.

isokani wrote:Nice to have the Phillip sonata editions again! I bought these ages ago when I was first learning the later sonatas (mid 80s) but despite being great editions, the binding was terrible and the books fell apart into lots of different bits ... some pages I think were irrevocably lost!

I bought a lot of sheet music in the former GDR - paper and binding quality was often terrible. Same with the notorious adhesive binding of Editio Musica Budapest . Surprisingly at least the binding of Soviet sheet music was fairly well (mainly either stapled or with thread stitching - I don't remember any adhesive binding).