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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:45 pm
by alfor
This is a rather late comment referring to musiclife217's question regarding Rachmaninoff's first piano sonata.
isokani wrote:No, I'm afraid I don't. I played the piece quite a few times this year, having learned it for the first time over Christmas and New Year. The first time was terrifying. If there any particular bits you find intractable, just ask. Slow practice did it for me - usually does! There's nothing in there that's really unplayable or which doesn't fit under the hands from my point of view, it's just the relentless hard work!
I quite agree! Currently revising my fingering of the 2nd sonata, I can only say that the first is much easier to finger. Like in the majority of R.'s piano music there are lots of plain and arpeggiated chords (with occasional „voicing“ tasks in the last mvt.), but the piece is generally much more straightforward, of enormous length, though, so it demands an enormous
endurance.
I have a decent (rare!) recording by Albert Ferber.
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:49 pm
by alfor
to
fleubis, my most faithful
Follower:
Rachmaninoff Etudes op. 33,6 (I just did some minor changes)
and a newly fingered one: op. 39,4
Rachmaninoff Etude op.33,6 fingered.pdf
Rachmaninoff Etude op.39,4 fingered.pdf
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:29 pm
by alfor
musiclife217 wrote:does anyone know of a good "study" edition of Rachmaninoff's 1st Piano Sonata, with fingering, etc.? Has anyone played this work and is willing to offer any tips, advice for difficult sections... ??
If you still need help, please let me know!
There is only one sparingly fingered edition (with occasional hints on pedaling)
by Takejiro Hirai (zen-on piano library).
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:55 pm
by musiclife217
alfor wrote:musiclife217 wrote:does anyone know of a good "study" edition of Rachmaninoff's 1st Piano Sonata, with fingering, etc.? Has anyone played this work and is willing to offer any tips, advice for difficult sections... ??
If you still need help, please let me know!
There is only one sparingly fingered edition (with occasional hints on pedaling)
by Takejiro Hirai (zen-on piano library).
thank you so much! that is very kind! I will have to see some passages where Alfor fingering (TM) would be most appreciated!
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:21 pm
by alfor
RACHMANINOFF
Sonata No. 2 op. 36
revised/improved alfor fingering
Rachmaninoff S. #2 op.36 alfor fingered.pdf
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:43 am
by fleubis
Alfred, I certainly am having fun checking out your improvements by comparing it to your previous version. Now having 3 hands seems a little less necessary.
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:33 pm
by alfor
fleubis wrote:Alfred, I certainly am having fun checking out your improvements by comparing it to your previous version. Now having 3 hands seems a little less necessary.
Dear fleubis,
you are welcome! Hope your name did not appear in the
„Panama Papers“ 
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:16 am
by fleubis
alfor wrote:fleubis wrote:Alfred, I certainly am having fun checking out your improvements by comparing it to your previous version. Now having 3 hands seems a little less necessary.
Dear fleubis,
you are welcome! Hope your name did not appear in the
„Panama Papers“
Well, what with 11 million papers out there......who knows? That's enough for 3 each for every person in Panama. (Actually, I was sort of hoping that Angela Merkel would be in there somewhere.)
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:20 pm
by Scriabinoff
Jim Faston wrote:
They should be in this Scriabin collection:
Jugendwerke für Klavier edited by Daniel Bosshard, published by Ediziun Trais Giats in 1997. I don't know if it is still in print, but a number of libraries hold copies.
Vollendete Kompositionen. Scherzo Es-Dur, WoO 4 ; Scherzo As-Dur, WoO 5 ; Fuge f-Moll, WoO 12 ; Fuge f-Moll, WoO 13 ; Klavierstück b-Moll, Anh. 16 ; Mazurka h-Moll, WoO 14 ; Duett für 2 Singstimmen d-Moll, WoO 10 ; Poème symphonique für 2 Klaviere d-Moll, WoO 24 -- Anhang, Fragmente. Etude Des-Dur, Anh. 8 ; Etude Fis-Dur, Anh. 9 ; Sonate cis-Moll, Anh. 11 ; Valse-impromptu Es-Dur, Anh. 13 ; Ballade b-Moll, Anh. 14.
it looks like this is out of print? if so, can others chime in and confirm? I have this and am making a back up /personal archive scan (so many of my scanning projects lately are not 'postable' but i look for opportunities to UL and stay as a contributor). If anyone including Malcolm can confirm if this is a go, no, that would help as if i cannot share, likely will just go into my main no post/folder .
Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:05 pm
by mballan
Scriabinoff..............can you share with me first. If published in 1997 then may still be covered by copyright restrictions.
However, I'm sure most of these pieces have appeard in other Russian albums........I'll check my collection as sure I have most if not all of these. Sometimes, some of these non-opus works by Scriabin are titled differently, so you have to check the score as well as the name !
Malcolm