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Re: Cadenzas

Post by shalvats » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:12 am

Christian Zacharias is interesting, uses Commendatore motive in his cadenza for d minor concerto

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Re: Cadenzas

Post by Timtin » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:50 pm

That reminds me of Schiff introducing themes from Figaro into his
K467 first movement cadenza. Apparently, Casadesus played WAM's
K451 cadenzas in K537. Also, this is quite interesting to read and
it quotes Dohnanyi's impressive K453 first movement cadenza in full,
along with the ones by Brahms, Busoni and Fischer.

http://www.academia.edu/25095350/Compar ... o_Concerto

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Re: Cadenzas

Post by shalvats » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:49 pm

And Lily Kraus of g minor symphony theme in K467 :D

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Re: Cadenzas

Post by shalvats » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:04 pm

contrapuntal cadenza by Kholodenko

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaDRh4r9UYk

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Re: Cadenzas

Post by Timtin » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:03 pm

According to this article, Mendelssohn wrote some cadenzas
for Mozart concertos, but I can't find any!

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... zas/35353/

This article is worth a read.
LevinMOZART.pdf
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Re: Cadenzas

Post by shalvats » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:51 am

two pages from Landowska's cadenza for d minor concerto
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Re: Cadenzas

Post by kroket » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:15 pm

shalvats wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:12 am
Christian Zacharias is interesting, uses Commendatore motive in his cadenza for d minor concerto
Don Giovanni seems very popular in the KV466 cadenzas nowadays.
See also Andras Schiff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ModFniDtMZY (from 5:33 on).
Shalvats, thank you for the Edwin Fischer cadenzas.
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Re: Cadenzas

Post by kroket » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:22 pm

Timtin wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:03 pm
According to this article, Mendelssohn wrote some cadenzas
for Mozart concertos, but I can't find any!

Timtin, here is a (German) page of Ralf Wehner's Werkverzeichnis of Mendelssohn.
According to that only (2) cadenzas to KV 365 were written down and survived.
The article that is mentioned in MWV is a large article from R. Larry Todd.
As a sample I've attached the part that discusses the cadenzas.
And thank you for the Reinecke cadenzas.
MWV Anhang B Mendelssohn-Mozart.pdf
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Re: Cadenzas

Post by Timtin » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:06 pm

Thank you to shalvats for the Landowska cadenza and to kroket for the information
about the surviving Mendelssohn cadenzas.

I thought that it might be fun to do my own little cadenza with an operatic quote.
There are no prizes for identifying the quote!
Cadenza to Mozart K467(1) [TNM].pdf
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Re: Cadenzas

Post by shalvats » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:12 am

kroket wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:15 pm
shalvats wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:12 am
Christian Zacharias is interesting, uses Commendatore motive in his cadenza for d minor concerto
Don Giovanni seems very popular in the KV466 cadenzas nowadays.
See also Andras Schiff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ModFniDtMZY (from 5:33 on).
Shalvats, thank you for the Edwin Fischer cadenzas.
Greetings, kroket
yes, Schiff does the same here, but not in studio recording. and... Edvin Fischer's cadenza for third part of 22 concerto is abridged in this scores, because he plays also theme from middle part Adantino cantabile

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