Alfor's Rarities

[fleubis]

Thanks for the latest Rach 2 installment. I must say, the way you have indicated is nearly the way I play it (happly, not in concert!), not the "ossias" you suggest....It doesn't seem difficult until you get these passages up to tempo. I can well believe R. may have used E flat - C of the left hand with the 5th and 3rd finger. There is just too much evidence in many other of his pieces whose figurations particularly lend themselves to large hands and with a much easier fingering than those of use with smaller hands must employ.

[soh choon wee]

I like your solution.... previously (for Page 24, second bar, 5-8 quavers) i used 1-2-3-5 using thumb to play both notes, but i dont quite like my solution.

If using the thumb on both notes, I would release both notes with the D, ie. on the 7th quaver...(!)
As you anyway have to shorten the left hand tied G a bit because of the g in the right hand, I believe
it is justified to use the thumb on the left hand D.

Precisely, I dont like my previous solution, because the stretch between 3 and 5, the 7th and 8th quavers is too wide, at that time I thought inevitable, now you crystalise my inherent dislike, because I actually subconsciously shorten the 7th quaver just to get the 8th, esp for smaller hand with thumb pressing.
Thanks for explanation.

[alfor]

Last (?) Rach 2 installment:

RACHMANINOFF
Piano Concerto No. 2
1st movement continued
alfor fingered™

See optimized file (Rach 2,1C fgd., opt.pdf) below!

[fleubis]

Alfred, you sure picked a choice spot to work on. The "Un poco piu mosso" section on p.7 is quite challenging. Nice fingering, indeed.

[alfor]

Please download optimized version of pages 6 & 7:

Rach 2,1C fgd., opt.pdf

Dear fleubis,
hope you'll like my leap on page 11, bars 1/2, left hand :

Rach 2,1D fgd.pdf

[fleubis]

Alfred, thanks for "Rach 2,1D" which has many excellent fingering suggestions. But, no your suggested jump in the left hand p11, bars one and two just doesn't work for me. For the left hand quavers on the first bar of p.11, I suggest 5-3-1-2-3-5-3-1-2.

-----I would posit that R. played it 5-3-2-1-3-5-4-3-2 -----

This is a very interesting section and it seems there are several good ways to play it.

[phikfy]

I played the 1st movement with a greeny youth orchestra once upon a time. Always vexed by page 7. Thanks Alfor for your fingering here. This passage looks more comfortable now.

[alfor]

Alfred, thanks for "Rach 2,1D" which has many excellent fingering suggestions. But, no your suggested jump in the left hand p11, bars one and two just doesn't work for me. For the left hand quavers on the first bar of p.11, I suggest 5-3-1-2-3-5-3-1-2.

-----I would posit that R. played it 5-3-2-1-3-5-4-3-2 -----

This is a very interesting section and it seems there are several good ways to play it.

Maybe you will adjust to my fingering - some time .

Of course your fingering is the most obvious (and well playable) choice and I shall write it down as alternative fingering (or the other way round).
Just one alteration: I do not feel any need to „prepare“ the 3rd finger, so I would use:
5-2-1-2-3-5 and so on...

Especially in passages like this the fingering depends very on how good (versatile) you are trained...
Same with trills: you may have your own preferred fingering, but literature demands being able to execute trills with every possible fingering.

[alfor]

Finally finished finicky fingering for freakish friendly finger fans:

RACHMANINOFF
Piano Concerto No. 3
1st movement
alfor fingered™

Parerga et Paralipomena
(Minor additions and corrections - happy hunting )

Rach 3,1 cpl.fgd.A.pdf

Rach 3,1 cpl.fgd.B.pdf

Rach 3,1 cpl.fgd.C.pdf

Rach 3,1 cpl.fgd.D.pdf

[fleubis]

Thank you, Alfred. I am now assembling the various files into a single "Alfor" fingered edition. I think we can now state that all the pages of the entire concerto seem to have been addressed with extremely useful fingerings. Quite an accomplishment, dear Alfred.