Organ transcriptions

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Organ transcriptions

Post by isseau » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:11 pm

Hello!
Does anyone have an organ transcriptions of Orff's "Carmina Burana"?

Regards

Michel

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by HullandHellandHalifax » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:37 am

isseau wrote:Hello!
Does anyone have an organ transcriptions of Orff's "Carmina Burana"?

Regards

Michel
Hi Michel,
Alas I don't have a copy, I had no idea it had been arranged for the organ even, but it is available here http://www.di-arezzo.co.uk/sheet+music/ ... 00958.html and in consequence we wouldn't be allowed to post it here as it is obviously under copyright.
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Brian

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by isseau » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:24 pm

HullandHellandHalifax wrote:
isseau wrote:Hello!
Does anyone have an organ transcriptions of Orff's "Carmina Burana"?

Regards

Michel
Hi Michel,
Alas I don't have a copy, I had no idea it had been arranged for the organ even, but it is available here http://www.di-arezzo.co.uk/sheet+music/ ... 00958.html and in consequence we wouldn't be allowed to post it here as it is obviously under copyright.
regards
Brian

Thanks, Brian!

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by benjamin75 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:15 pm

I'm looking for Lemare's arrangement on Rienzi Overture for organ.
Could anybody help me, please?
- I mention that Lemare's transcriptions are difficult to find now as they are mainly out-of-print, even in reprint books... :-(

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by HullandHellandHalifax » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:28 pm

benjamin75 wrote:I'm looking for Lemare's arrangement on Rienzi Overture for organ.
Could anybody help me, please?
- I mention that Lemare's transcriptions are difficult to find now as they are mainly out-of-print, even in reprint books... :-(
Sorry thats one I don't have though I do have the arrangement by Pearce which I will scan if required.
regards
Brian

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by Op. XXXIX » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:42 am

That would be wonderful, Brian! I have a number of recordings of Lemare's music, though I've not seen much in the way of scores.

Lemare must have been an incredibly charismatic performer, though one might suggest to Cameron Carpenter that he make his own arrangement of the Rienzi. You know it would be a hoot... BTW, have you heard Cameron's latest CD of Bach? Totally outrageous of course, but the guy just overflows with talent. The organ at Smokey Mary's has unlikely recovered.

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by HullandHellandHalifax » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:57 am

Op. XXXIX wrote:That would be wonderful, Brian! I have a number of recordings of Lemare's music, though I've not seen much in the way of scores.

Lemare must have been an incredibly charismatic performer, though one might suggest to Cameron Carpenter that he make his own arrangement of the Rienzi. You know it would be a hoot... BTW, have you heard Cameron's latest CD of Bach? Totally outrageous of course, but the guy just overflows with talent. The organ at Smokey Mary's has unlikely recovered.
I have a stack of Lemare scores but a long way off having them all. I believe Wayne Leupold has republished all the original compositions though I don't know if they are still in print. Lemare was a charismatic person, no question, thats why he got the sack from St. Margarets, people only turned up at the end of the service to hear Lemare play and the idiot vicar took umbrage at that and rather than having bums on seats for at least part of the service he decimated his congregation and pleased no-one in one stroke.
Lemare then went to the USA and became an instant success playing to pop concertlike crowds in their thousands. It seems hard to believe now but it is the truth, so maybe CC can revive interest in the organ, the other CC did his best but the fickle public needs another sensation and CC is certainly that, strange isn't it that both of them share the same initials, Carlo Curley and Cameron Carpenter.
I have CC's latest CD/DVD and yes it is outrageous and thought provoking. I wasn't so keen on the Liszt transcription of Funerailles, that didn't work for me, some of the others are just so complicated that no-one else would be able to play them on a normal organ without a lot of help.
Have you attempted the Toccata in F in the new key, I intend to, it might even make it a little easier to play.
I will scan the Rienzi a.s.a.p.
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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by HullandHellandHalifax » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:32 pm

Dear friends,
here is the Charles W. Pearce transcription of Rienzi.
The copy owned by Dr. William A Hall was presented to him by Dr. Pearce (see cover) and as you look at the score you will find numerous alterations. Dr. Hall was a very pernickety person who demanded absolute accuracy from his pupils, he was authoritarian and inspired fear beofre allowing his other side to be seen. I know this because I bought a massive amount of organ music from a pupil of his who lived in Goole, Dr. Hall having bequeathed it to him years earlier after retiring from active life as organist at Doncaster PC I think, at least it was somewhere in West Yorkshire. Hall was himself a pupil of Edwin Lemare in 1895, the first piece he studied with him being the Guilmant 1 (I have that particular score also)and I wonder if the alterations on this score dating from 1904 (see cover) may well represent a tradition handed down from Lemare, it will be interesting to compare the two if someone ever finds a copy.
My old organ teacher used to say to me "..a transcription is a transcription and not an original work so if you want to alter or improve or simplify anything, you can" and he did and so do I and I am therefore following on a well-established tradition as the Rienzi demonstrates.
regards
Brian
Wagner - Pearce Overture Rienzi.pdf
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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by benjamin75 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:51 pm

Thank you very much for this scan, Brian.
Yes, as you mentionned, WLeupold's books are unfortunately and definitively out-of-print (according to sheetmusicplus website that stills list the books...)

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Re: Organ transcriptions

Post by Op. XXXIX » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:25 am

Ah Brian, my good mate- thanks for the scan! Can't wait to try it -as soon as I can find an organ to try it out on- isn't it one of Wagner's greatest moments? I've listened to the whole opera once, and I should think a real 'slap-up' performance would be a helluva show. Take that, Meyerbeer!

As for playing the F major toccata in F#? Have you lost your mind? :) :) It's hard enough in the original key, and a half-hearted attempt at the piano ended in an emotional moment of frustration, or perhaps a melt-down? What next Brian, the T,A&F in Db?

Speaking of transpositions -and this better than a PM- you obviously knew that H Walford Davies was DoM for many years at the Temple Church in London. (Disgusting place- seldom open to the public outside of services.) Walford Davies was evidently a man of exceptional talent and could play all of the Beethoven sonatas for memory, not to mention probably a lot of other stuff. He was a very conventional composer, though his Mag & nunc in G is still widely done- and for good reason.

Here is the anecdote: there was a performance of the Bach B minor scheduled one Sunday afternoon at the Temple Church, but all of a sudden Walford Davies was taken sick. They called in a substitute, and just before the rehearsal, the conductor said: 'oh yes, we always take it down a half step!'

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