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HullandHellandHalifax wrote:I am very excited by the piano in that the sound is not that of the Big Boys, the Steinways, Bechs, Bosens and Bluths.
HHH, I think you missed your vocation. You should have been a carpenter, given the number of times you appear to hit the nail on the head...

The problem with the high and low notes is that they are very dependent upon the individual piano, much more than the mid-range, which by and large tends to be more (but not completely) uniform. Hence I agree, as do most of the people I've spoken too, that perhaps the piece would have been different if the composer had more access to the sound of the piano. I didn't mind the piece so much, and the pianism is excellent IMO, but these are very early days for these types of pianos, and Stephen is still feeling his way forward as a piano designer and manufacturer.

I also agree that 102 notes is not likely to be the standard. From a technical and musical perspective 109 notes (i.e a full 9 octaves + 1, C0->C9) is possible and the only reason not to go there is laziness and fear of the 88-note inertia. 109 notes will happen, and it will be very interesting to see what can be made of it.

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Hi Fred,
"109 notes will happen, and it will be very interesting to see what can be made of it."

I don't doubt you there, even Cramer got it wrong in 1817 when he forecast that he saw no reason for pianos of 7 octaves ever to be the norm. 6 octaves being plenty enough, after all until mid-Beethoven 5 octaves was the norm.
However knowing how awkward it can be to have to play both extremes at the same time which some composers think hilariously funny (Alkan Song of the mad woman on the shore, for instance) the thought of having to stretch even further without some assistance is not encouraging. Don't you think that for 109 notes the keyboard will have to be more anatomically designed with the distance from the extreme ends being arms length and not orang-utang length, in other words a radiating keyboard. Mechanically that is not impossible and for the player once they get used to it much better so you don't have to lean over too far or to have to lean over to one side too much, which is also not a pleasant experience for the wrists.
It seems the future of the piano is assured with all these developments so hurrah for that.
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HullandHellandHalifax wrote:Don't you think that for 109 notes the keyboard will have to be more anatomically designed with the distance from the extreme ends being arms length and not orang-utang length, in other words a radiating keyboard.
It is somewhat difficult to play the extremes of a small 88-note keyboard at the same time anyway. Normal keyboards (i.e. 97 and above) are not designed with that in mind, although judicious use of the damper pedal can help.
HullandHellandHalifax wrote:It seems the future of the piano is assured with all these developments so hurrah for that.
Oh yes, very much so. It's fun to be part of it :-)

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What fun it is to discover music via YouTube! The more I search, the more I find
of extemely fine but more-or-less forgotten, neglected or just plain ignored
English music. We have an immensely rich heritage of late 19th. and 20th. century
here in this country, but it seems that a mere handful of composers (Britten, Elgar
Holst, Tippett, Vaughan Williams and Walton) ever get a look in, particularly when
it comes to concert performances.

I'd love to see the Proms programmers be a bit imaginative for a change and give
us a chance to hear, say, a symphony by Arnold, Bax, Bliss, Bowen, Brian, Holbrooke,
Parry, Rubbra, Scott, Smyth or Stanford.

Actually, Ethel Smyth never wrote a symphony, but her Serenade is one in all but name,
and what a splendid work it is too:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvdVpahE9ng
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I don't believe anyone has recorded a spicy little modern/jazzish prelude built on the familiar Chopin no 7 in A major.

Prelude in G major (on a theme of Chopin). The prelude was published but now out of print, and Lienhard still lives so I don't believe there's any way to post her work on PP at this time, but still wanted to give her a little nod as her work/style has grown on me as a result of my time w a few of her works (so far, but more is planed) 8-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c348WAYTuE
score(s) info (decent little book, worth seeking out by those that like a jazzy sound)
Sauls, Noreen. Professional Stylings for the Solo Pianist. Katonah, NY: Ekay Music, 1992.

composer bio in the video description field. Noreen Lienhard (name was Sauls at time of publishing) , has a fun mild sound to her and she did quite a bit of re imagining of std. classical works.
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I've been making lots of CDs recently of English music using the mp3 files
obtained from YouTube soundtracks.

Two of my favourites are Liana Serbescu's recordings of Ethel Smyth's piano
music, which is absolutely fascinating to listen to and to play.

However, a couple of tracks on CD2 aren't actually by Smyth, as I've explained
in the public comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlM_J0sev7w
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Joachim Raff Fantasiestück Op.86 No.1 'Begegnung'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IJeoXVZbFk

Another performance with perhaps an even lovelier cello tone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcGlR3K ... kyw2gyQWKu

http://imslp.org/wiki/2_Fantasiest%C3%B ... ,_Joachim)

An utterly delightful 'encounter' between a piano and a cello.

The middle section is guaranteed to make you smile.


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Unfortunately, none of these YouTube clips is available here in France.
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Does this youtube downloader work for those outside the U.S.?

http://en.savefrom.net/

Please copy this link of the Raff Begegnung and paste it to the savefrom box:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcGlR3K ... kyw2gyQWKu

If the video appears, click the green Download button.

(Don't install the download helper they offer.)

The first link in my post above won't download, but the second one works fine. But in Europe...?

I did a search and found this link to Spotify that says "Log in to listen for free". I have no experience with Spotify, so I can't comment or recommend:

https://play.spotify.com/album/0BeKqgZi ... edium=open

I hope either of these could help solve the 'Europe problem'.


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remy wrote:The first link in my post above won't download, but the second one works fine. But in Europe...?
Not too sure whether Europe still exists, but your tip was precious and the download through Savefromnet did work here in France.
Thank you Jeremy.
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