Piano Concerti in Full Score

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Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by arglmann » Thu May 20, 2010 10:52 am

Hello everyone,
I'm searching for Ferdinand Ries, Piano Concerto op.151
in a flat major.
Could someone please help me if he knows
where this can be located?

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by fredbucket » Thu May 20, 2010 11:50 am

arglmann wrote:I'm searching for Ferdinand Ries, Piano Concerto op.151 in a flat major.
According to Grove, Ries' op.151 is ‘Salut au Rhin’ and is numbered as #7.

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by Caprotti » Thu May 20, 2010 12:14 pm

'Salut au Rhin' is the subtitle of piano Concerto n.8 inAb

Piano Concerto n.7 op.132 is also known as 'Farewell to London'

Full scores of that kind of works generally didn't exist, and even parts are difficult to find

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by fredbucket » Thu May 20, 2010 1:42 pm

Caprotti wrote:'Salut au Rhin' is the subtitle of piano Concerto n.8 in Ab
You're right of course, I miscounted.

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by arglmann » Thu May 20, 2010 3:06 pm

Caprotti wrote:'Salut au Rhin' is the subtitle of piano Concerto n.8 inAb

Piano Concerto n.7 op.132 is also known as 'Farewell to London'

Full scores of that kind of works generally didn't exist, and even parts are difficult to find
Hm, that's sad...
I'll keep on searching, though...

Thank you, Caprotti and Fred, for answering.

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by fredbucket » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:59 am

Caprotti wrote:'Salut au Rhin' is the subtitle of piano Concerto n.8 in Ab
...and has now been released by the Bavarian Library, but not unfortunately in full score...http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db ... 263/images

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by arglmann » Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:01 pm

fredbucket wrote:
Caprotti wrote:'Salut au Rhin' is the subtitle of piano Concerto n.8 in Ab
...and has now been released by the Bavarian Library, but not unfortunately in full score...http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db ... 263/images

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Thanks, Fred!
That's how they do it...

I did indeed let them scan this very piano reduction for me,
and after having it scanned of course the file exists in digital form,
so why don't give it to the public for free...
I haven't received the bill yet, but got it as a download, so I think it is extra expensive :-|
I would actually do the same if I was a library...

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by Caprotti » Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:37 pm

I think I have not fully understood your remark about BSB. Usually they charge the scan on demand, but after that they insert the file in the public downloadable list. In other words as far as I know they do not scan any score like Sibley or Texas University just for the purpose of preserving those old papers, they scan only when a customer asks (and pay) for that.
This is a better way compared to other libraries like BL, since those libraries are paid each time the same score is requested by n customers and the pdf still remains unpublished !

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by arglmann » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:00 pm

Caprotti wrote:I think I have not fully understood your remark about BSB. Usually they charge the scan on demand, but after that they insert the file in the public downloadable list. In other words as far as I know they do not scan any score like Sibley or Texas University just for the purpose of preserving those old papers, they scan only when a customer asks (and pay) for that.
This is a better way compared to other libraries like BL, since those libraries are paid each time the same score is requested by n customers and the pdf still remains unpublished !
Dear Caprotti, you are right about that. As I said above, if I was a library I would do the same thing.
At the beginning, when reading Fred's post, I thought it being a big coincidence that just after me asking for Ries, BSB made it available for everyone. Now I understand it as a good service for the customer :-)

A hint for people who order scores which are copyrighted (a hint which, actually, was given to me from a person working in the BSB):
just order the copyrighted material (not including state theatre works or works too old to be taken out of "Musiklesessal") into the "Allgemeiner Lesesaal"
where nobody gives a *** about what you copy. It works :-)
Ze krazy krauts, no!?

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Re: Piano Concerti in Full Score

Post by minacciosa » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:51 pm

Has anyone ever seen a full score to Czerny's Piano concerto(s) for 4 hands?

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