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Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:18 pm
by kroket
HTIEKFR wrote:This score is quite exactly the piano part of the sonata but about the D flat in bars 5 to 8 ?
The violin part in these youth sonatas is optional ('ad libitum') and can be left out. The original piano part can be played solo. Henle published not long ago a version of KV 6 - 9 without the violin part.
Greetings, kroket

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:30 am
by Timtin
HTIEKFR wrote:This score is quite exactly the piano part of the sonata but about the D flat in bars 5 to 8 ?
Did Mozart write those dreadful daily exercises at the start? :-)

Btw1, Köchel's catalogue has an additional 50-bar Marche in F
associated with K8, quoted in full. However, my German isn't up
to the task of working out quite what this associaion is. Underneath
the music it says: Ob es von Mozart stammt ist ungewiß.

Btw2, all of his early violin sonatas (K6-15, K26-31 and K55-61)
can be played fairly satisfactorily without the accompanying violin.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:21 pm
by HTIEKFR
Thanks but what about this D flat ?
Is there a technical explanation about this ?

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:34 pm
by Timtin
Unfortunately, the incipit in Köchel only gives the first 3 bars.
Perhaps the D flat was put there by Charles Hallé to make the first
phrase slightly less repetitive.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:50 pm
by kroket
Timtin wrote:Unfortunately, the incipit in Köchel only gives the first 3 bars.
Perhaps the D flat was put there by Charles Hallé to make the first
phrase slightly less repetitive.
In the NMA this D-flat is not in the violin & keyboard version. But it appears in the NMA in the first movement of KV 8 that's in Nannerl's Notenbuch. Strangely this D-flat appears there only in measures 6, 7 and 8, but not in measure 5! But this D-flat was apparently put in by Wolfgang or Leopold in this solo version. What I understand in Kochel ed. 8 about the March is that the page in the Nannerl Notenbuch wchich has KV8 starts with this March, notated by Leopold. Kochel ed. 8 mentions that it is not certain if Wolfgang composed this March, although this is probable.
Indeed all the youth sonatas can be played without the violin. But KV55-61 are listed as spurious and not by Mozart.
I hope the new catalogue by Neil Zaslaw will appear soon. The Mozarteum communicated in 2011 that it was near completion!
Greetings, kroket

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:51 pm
by Timtin
Many thanks Kroket for your excellent research on K8.

Regards, Tim.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:47 pm
by HTIEKFR
Thanks for all the informations
Seems it will remain a "small" mystery :)

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:11 pm
by arneros
Piano concerto K 466: cadenza Clara Haskil.
It was published?
Any information about it?
Thanks.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:49 pm
by kroket
The Mozarteum gave us 94 seconds of "new" Mozart!
Allegro in D K626b/16
https://mozarteum.at/static/402843f9481 ... 021_17.pdf
Greetings,
kroket

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:41 pm
by Timtin
Thank you Kroket. There's some more information here:-
https://www.classicfm.com/composers/moz ... niversary/