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Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:04 am
by ilu
W.A. Mozart arranged Johann Christian Bach three sonatas from the latter's Op. 5 into keyboard concerts

Does anyone know what Mozart’s piano concertos are? (maybe Kv. 107?).

Thanks in advance.

ILU.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:19 am
by Jim Faston
ilu wrote:W.A. Mozart arranged Johann Christian Bach three sonatas from the latter's Op. 5 into keyboard concerts

Does anyone know what Mozart’s piano concertos are? (maybe Kv. 107?).

Thanks in advance.

ILU.
See this article:
http://www.mozartforum.com/Lore/article.php?id=475

The scores are available in IMSLP under JC Bach 6 Keyboard Sonatas, Op.5 (W.A 1-6).

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:39 pm
by ilu
Muchas gracias!

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:31 am
by alfor
Was wir von den Altvorderen lernen können:

PC K. 450 ed. Bruno Hinze-Reinhold:
Mozart PC K 450 ed. Hinze Reinhold.pdf

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:25 pm
by alfor
Best recordings of K 450:

Kempff / Münchinger
(mono, but also the electronic stereo version -
German Decca LP - sounds really fine)

Young Elly Ney

Surprisingly fine:
Bolet / Koetsier
Bavarian Radio Orchestra
1968 studio recording.

Maybe somebody will succeed in downloading the complete
recording from one of the websites of our Chinese friends
(no longer on youtube).

Preview:
Bolet Mozart K 450 1968.flv
Strangely stiff (not at all recommended!):
late Michelangeli.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:36 am
by Caprotti
Alfred, the old Michelangeli recording (EMI, 1951) is commonly regarded as one of the best playing ever issued !!!

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:48 pm
by HullandHellandHalifax
Caprotti wrote:Alfred, the old Michelangeli recording (EMI, 1951) is commonly regarded as one of the best playing ever issued !!!
which just goes to show that tastes change and what was once considered the No.1 is suddenly bottom of the list. It is not exclusive to Mozart either, I am sure that in 50 years time people will shudder at how contemporary pianists play Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Debussy etc. and this has nothing to do with informed historical practice, just that peoples tastes in 50 years time will be unrecognisable to ours.

regards
Brian

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:24 pm
by Caprotti
I don't think it deals only with change of taste. Could you say that Mozart or Beethoven are in our days "out of taste" ? No, of course, because the genius maintains his value in the centuries. I believe that some interpretations maintain their value too,and I consider Michelangeli's K.450 still one of the best playing of all the times. At the same time great interpreters like Cortot or Hofmann and so on will maintain their place in the top of the preferences. I agree on the fact that 95% of today's playing recorded on cds or dvds will be completely forgotten, because it lacks of any kind of spirit, imagination, fantasy.

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:37 pm
by HullandHellandHalifax
Caprotti wrote:I don't think it deals only with change of taste. Could you say that Mozart or Beethoven are in our days "out of taste" ? No, of course, because the genius maintains his value in the centuries. I believe that some interpretations maintain their value too,and I consider Michelangeli's K.450 still one of the best playing of all the times. At the same time great interpreters like Cortot or Hofmann and so on will maintain their place in the top of the preferences. I agree on the fact that 95% of today's playing recorded on cds or dvds will be completely forgotten, because it lacks of any kind of spirit, imagination, fantasy.
I quite agree with you Caprotti, perhaps when we describe musical taste we confuse it to some extent with "fashion" what is now fashionable will be out of fashion in 20 years or whatever, but good taste seems to retain it's value over the centuries in that as you say the geniuses will be strong enough to sail through the choppy waters of new styles and developments. You are right about the interpreters too, certain pianists will always have a permanent place at the top of the tree and as for the rest that copy other peoples styles and mannerisms, then they will most certainly disappear.
regards
Brian

Re: The Music of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:58 am
by quercus
A late response to Alfor's post -

I have a copy of Bolet playing K450. It came to me courtesy of the SymphonyShare group. Sound quality is excellent, format is FLAC, size is 120MB. If there's interest, I can upload it somewhere (probably not on Pianophilia due to the size).