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Thank you, Phillip. In spite of what Wikipedia says, I doubt very much that Leonard Gautier, if he really existed, was French. His first successful works are already mentionned as early as 1884 and his publications are only made through different British editors. It would be very difficult for a young French man to have tha early success in England without being even known in France. I suspect it is a penname and it might actually designate several different anonymous composers, as Augener often did at that time.
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Real or not, here's a scan of his most famous work, Le Secret (Intermezzo Pizzicato N. 276) and a link to a YouTube recording of same.
Gauthier_Le Secret (Intermezzo Pizzicato No.276).pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1u2BIy-FRI
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Thanks for this little gem, Jim. I think I'll have some cotton candy to go with it.
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Jean-Séb wrote:Thank you, Phillip. In spite of what Wikipedia says, I doubt very much that Leonard Gautier, if he really existed, was French. His first successful works are already mentionned as early as 1884 and his publications are only made through different British editors. It would be very difficult for a young French man to have tha early success in England without being even known in France. I suspect it is a penname and it might actually designate several different anonymous composers, as Augener often did at that time.
That's an interesting point. I would be interested to know of examples of a pseudonym being used by more than one composer. It sounds perfectly possible! I don't think I have so far come accross any.
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What with composers having several different pseudonyms and even more
than one composer using a common pseudonym, one wonders if Pianophilia
should allow similar practices with its users' names! :-)
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Timtin wrote:What with composers having several different pseudonyms and even more
than one composer using a common pseudonym, one wonders if Pianophilia
should allow similar practices with its users' names! :-)
Don't worry Timtin, your real pseudonym , alfor, is safe with me I won't tell a soul...whoops I just have!!!
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Phillip210 wrote:
Jean-Séb wrote:Thank you, Phillip. In spite of what Wikipedia says, I doubt very much that Leonard Gautier, if he really existed, was French. His first successful works are already mentionned as early as 1884 and his publications are only made through different British editors. It would be very difficult for a young French man to have tha early success in England without being even known in France. I suspect it is a penname and it might actually designate several different anonymous composers, as Augener often did at that time.
That's an interesting point. I would be interested to know of examples of a pseudonym being used by more than one composer. It sounds perfectly possible! I don't think I have so far come accross any.
I read something like that about Cramer :
See the article in Fetis :
http://www.archive.org/stream/biographi ... 7/mode/1up
and the note in IMSLP :
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Cramer,_Henri/Arranger
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Waldemar Malmene (1836-1906)
La Zingara Polonaise de Concert
Published by Walter Luhn, St. Louis, 1898.
Malmene,W.-.La-Zingara-Polonnaise-de-Concert-(pno-Luhn-Edition-1898).pdf
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Jean-Séb wrote:
Phillip210 wrote:
Jean-Séb wrote:Thank you, Phillip. In spite of what Wikipedia says, I doubt very much that Leonard Gautier, if he really existed, was French. His first successful works are already mentionned as early as 1884 and his publications are only made through different British editors. It would be very difficult for a young French man to have tha early success in England without being even known in France. I suspect it is a penname and it might actually designate several different anonymous composers, as Augener often did at that time.
That's an interesting point. I would be interested to know of examples of a pseudonym being used by more than one composer. It sounds perfectly possible! I don't think I have so far come accross any.
I read something like that about Cramer :
See the article in Fetis :
http://www.archive.org/stream/biographi ... 7/mode/1up
and the note in IMSLP :
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Cramer,_Henri/Arranger
Thank you - that's really interesting!
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