Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

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Re: Russian & Soviet Composers - Part 3

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fleubis wrote:Staccato double-notes? I have enough trouble with legato double notes!
staccato double notes are easier to play (in most cases), imho...
But you may anyway prefer this version of the Vogrich:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui_WsKwj5R8
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Well at least it's a study in 6ths and not 3rds so not as hard as anticipated I still like this version better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD2elkzazOM
Quite a workout on the accordion.

Which reminds me, Alfred. Ever hear of a piece by J. Moscheles "impromptu in E flat"? No, not Ignatz Moscheles. It bears a striking resemblance to Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu.
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Dear fleubis,
I presume you mean the Impromptu Op.89 by Ignaz Moscheles, there is and never was a J Moscheles, it was dependent on where the music was published how your name was spelled. In France Schlesinger published this Impromptu with the initial as J presumably because of the phonetic sound of the name in French. I am sure Jean-Seb will know the reason as he is the fount of knowledge French on Pianophilia.
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Actually, in French, the letters I and J do not sound alike nowadays (and it has been so for centuries). But it is true that for decorative reasons, the upper-case I was sometimes written J until late in the XIXth Century, especially in scores; originally (in medieval times) , it was the same letter, like U and V were the same : in the old texts, it was often chosen to write J and V at the beginning of words, and I and U in the middle of words. That's probably why the habit was kept for decorative reasons.
You will thus find lots of scores by J. Moscheles or J. Pleyel.
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Sometimes, it can be very tricky, especially for works by the French composer Isaac Strauss, Music director of the imperial court balls at the French Imperial Court, exactly when Johann Strauss was also KK Hofballmusikdirektor Music Director of the Royal Court Balls. For example, this score is by Isaac, not Johann and it is sometimes mislabelled in catalogues :
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Thanks Jean- Seb for the very clear explanation, O knew you would know the answer. Thanks also for the I-J Strauss Diva cover, I have the score as far as I know and have naturally wrongly attributed it. Glad to put things right.
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Thank you Jean-Seb for this welcome explanation. I have seen this before and sometimes thought it was a publishing error. Interesting to know that such changes were intentional and the reasoning behind it. It seems everyone at IMSLP knows about this convention, but I didn't.
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naturlaut wrote:I'm trying to catch up on some scanning during the holidays.
Piled in front of me now are Oleg Eiges Sonatas 6, 7, 8, and an album of Nazarova-Medtner. A quick search on PP and I don't see these posted up. Show me a count of interested hands and I'll scan these up.
I'd be interested in that Nazarova-Medtner album. I shared her 'Sonata-Poema on Vietnamese Folk Songs' a while back:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=570&p=21862&hilit=nazarova#p21862

I also shared the 6th and 7th Oleg Eiges sonatas at:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=570&p=31649&hilit= ... ges#p31649

I believe that sonata no. 8 was posted on the Oleg Eiges website.

Glancing at my folder, Eiges' sonatas 1 through 12 have all been shared here at some point, as have the two ballades and his concerto. A few years back, I prioritized filling in the holes in his piano oeuvre for this forum.
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Had to revise/improve my fingering:

Sergei S. PROKOFIEFF
Sonata No. 8 op. 84 mvt. 1


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Posted as addition to my fingering of the complete Etudes Tableaux:

There is not much information about the life of
Russian pianist Xenia PROCHOROWA (probably born in 1905).
In the 1950s she made some recordings for the German IMPERIAL label.

These two Rachmaninov Etudes are among the best ever recorded, imho.
Despite or perhaps due to the moderate speed in No. 6!
Rachmaninov op.39,4 Prochorowa.FLAC
Rachmaninov op.39,6 Prochorowa.FLAC
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