The Unknown Composer

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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by FW190 » Thu May 17, 2018 7:32 am

Ludwig (Louis) Samson (1839-1900)
Scherzo, Humoresque & Burlesque, op.21
Published by Neumeyer & Co, London, nd [~1870].
Sibley scanned a Piano Trio (IMSLP) by Samson some years ago.
Samson,L.-.op.21.-.Scherzo-Humoresque&Burlesque-(pno-Neumeyer-Edition).pdf
Pazdirek.-.Ludwig-Samson.pdf
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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by Timtin » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:53 pm

This is quite a nice piece by D.F.Thomas, who ever he/she was
- perhaps a relative of P.D.Q.Bach!
Thomas Merry Dance.pdf
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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by fredbucket » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:23 pm

Timtin wrote:This is quite a nice piece by D.F.Thomas, who ever he/she was..[/attachment]
Perhaps TimTin in disguise? :-)

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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by Timtin » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:23 am

fredbucket wrote:
Timtin wrote:This is quite a nice piece by D.F.Thomas, who ever he/she was..[/attachment]
Perhaps TimTin in disguise? :-)

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Confession time, Fred. It's actually a complete reworking of a
piece by Thomas.F.D(unhill). It's from his The Wheel of Progress
Op.74 Bk.3 No.1.

I changed the time signature, the key signature and virtually every
detail of the melodic line, as a mischievous exercise in exploring the
grey area between where plagiarism ends and originality begins.
Only the basic rhythm and underlying harmonic structure remain
unaltered.

My conclusion is that it wouldn't be that difficult to concoct a 'new'
piece in this rather underhand manner, although there's a zero
level of satisfaction from having done so.

My apologies for leading you a 'merry dance', and I'll scan the
original score later today by way of compensation, and to enable
comparison with Dunhill's original piece.

Rgds, Tim.

Update: the original is now available in the British Isles thread.

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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by fredbucket » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:30 pm

:-)

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Post by Scriabinoff » Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:01 pm

ok so not really primary aim of this thread but seems most appropriate place to pose the question
the 21st Hamamatsu PIRA piano competition going on, I love this entry from a couple to few days ago, I'm usually better as id ing these works but this one escapes me, I feel Bartok at times , then Ravel, them Debussy, then I think maybe a less known neo impressionist bit ah I dont know, any of you wise and generous sages care to help me pin down who wrote this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=viaDDbKUd3w

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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by Jim Faston » Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:51 pm

I can name that tune in --- zero notes. It states in the description "Piece: Suite Op.14 No.1to3" - that would be Bartók.

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Post by Scriabinoff » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:05 am

Jim Faston wrote:I can name that tune in --- zero notes. It states in the description "Piece: Suite Op.14 No.1to3" - that would be Bartók.
well done! your skill and knowledge and know how knows no bounds. you are a gentleman and a scholar!!
thank you!! :D

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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by Scriabinoff » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:21 am

M Alison
No idea who this is, piece looks attractive enough again just a scan from some dusty old books I've been needing to look through in my home score library
M. Allison - Solitude.pdf
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Re: The Unknown Composer

Post by Phillip210 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:52 pm

Scriabinoff wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:21 am
M Alison
No idea who this is, piece looks attractive enough again just a scan from some dusty old books I've been needing to look through in my home score library
M. Allison - Solitude.pdf
Thank you - that looks interesting. I hope there is more to come from your dusty old books!

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