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Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:14 pm
by Pianoman
fredbucket wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:15 am
lebowl wrote:
ilu wrote:Thanks! Does anyone have a sheet or internet link for the correct way to play the ornaments in Rameau?
I'm including the complete Nouvelles Suites hereRameau - Nuovelles Suites de Clavecin.pdf - there is a section on ornaments in the preface.

Regards
Fred
This is the 3rd Volume of "Pièces de Clavecin", right? What about the 2nd one? "Pièces de Clavessin" (1724). Is it available?

Thanks

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:31 pm
by fredbucket
Pianoman wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:14 pmThis is the 3rd Volume of "Pièces de Clavecin", right? What about the 2nd one? "Pièces de Clavessin" (1724). Is it available?
I think you've just broken the record for for the longest date of reply...

IMSLP should have it. If not, let me know.

Regards
Fred

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:25 pm
by Pianoman
fredbucket wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:31 pm
Pianoman wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:14 pmThis is the 3rd Volume of "Pièces de Clavecin", right? What about the 2nd one? "Pièces de Clavessin" (1724). Is it available?
I think you've just broken the record for for the longest date of reply...

IMSLP should have it. If not, let me know.

Regards
Fred
It doesn't. At least I didn't find it...
(I'm talking about the full 2nd Volume)

Thanks!

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:56 pm
by Jean-Séb
There is no second book of 1724 :
Quatre livres de pièces de clavecin comprenant 27 ordres
Premier livre, 1713
Second livre, 1716/1717
Troisième livre, 1722
Quatrième livre, 1730
Second book, published in 1716/1717 is on IMSLP
https://imslp.org/wiki/Second_livre_de_ ... %C3%A7ois)

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:46 pm
by Pianoman
Jean-Séb wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:56 pm There is no second book of 1724 :
Quatre livres de pièces de clavecin comprenant 27 ordres
Premier livre, 1713
Second livre, 1716/1717
Troisième livre, 1722
Quatrième livre, 1730
Second book, published in 1716/1717 is on IMSLP
https://imslp.org/wiki/Second_livre_de_ ... %C3%A7ois)
Thanks, but I'm talking about Rameau, not Couperin.

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:06 pm
by Jean-Séb
Sorry. Anyway, the whole 2nd volume of Rameau is included in this complete edition :
http://ks4.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usi ... mplete.pdf
See from page 19 (71/191).

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:34 pm
by Pianoman
Jean-Séb wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:06 pm Sorry. Anyway, the whole 2nd volume of Rameau is included in this complete edition :
http://ks4.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usi ... mplete.pdf
See from page 19 (71/191).
That will do!

Thanks a lot.

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:42 pm
by lebowl
Does anyone have the Kempff transcription of Rameau's Le rappel des oiseaux as played here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ine9cWg ... eQEp56J24A

Thanks.

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:25 pm
by Jim Faston
It isn't a transcription - just the original from the Suite in E minor, RCT 2 as played by Kempff on the piano. A score can be found on IMSLP.

Re: Couperin, Rameau and the French Harpsichordists

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:43 pm
by lebowl
Thanks for the clarification. I've heard this piece quite a bit and was wondering if it was really different because I didn't notice any obvious differences except maybe Kemff used a lot of pedal.